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Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:46 pm
by xj
got any pics of this wagon yet?
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:13 pm
by Rych
Standard photo, will post another when all the raising is done.

Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:41 am
by Rych
Hey I'm having a bit of a struggle finding where to change the T-Case Shift Linkage. I have pulled away the carpet around the drivers floor side and can't find the 4 bolts they talk off. Anyone got a diagram or photos which could assist me to find what I need to take off and replace.
Thanks heaps.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:53 am
by Rych
Is it weird that myns on the passenger side not the drivers?? Maybe they mean on American drivers lol. All is good now found it and a 10min job to change. Cheers for all the assistance! Shocks next which should be easier.

Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:26 pm
by Rych
lol won't go into all the 4wd options very well though, the t-case linkage thing bumps into the bolts of the new t-case shift linkage.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:36 pm
by xj
Rych wrote:lol won't go into all the 4wd options very well though, the t-case linkage thing bumps into the bolts of the new t-case shift linkage.
sommat dont sound right there huh?
Cant offer any light im afraid as ive never played with the additional linkage bracket.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:50 pm
by TJ
Is it not going into 4Lo properly?
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:09 pm
by Rych
Well got it all sussed, I had to adjust one of the links, not sure what it's called but you can adjust the leaver so that all options work. I loosened the bolt and slide it along the leaver a bit meaning you could slide the inside handle right back to get it into 4WD low and when in 2WD the leaver would be right down forward. Guessing you guys will know what I adjusted lol, unsure of the name but was an easy fix.
Suspension lift is also all done, went smoothly except for the front right shock which the nut was spinning the thread so I had to cut right through the nut and thread to pull the shock out. And realized it was a lot easier to get the springs out when both wheels were off and the axle would drop a lot further down.
Before pic up above and now! Am happy with how much it lifted, took it for a bit of a test spin and performed well. Now just need some nice black steel rims and some new 32" or 33" mud tires.

Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:45 pm
by xj
Rych wrote:Well got it all sussed, I had to adjust one of the links, not sure what it's called but you can adjust the leaver so that all options work. I loosened the bolt and slide it along the leaver a bit meaning you could slide the inside handle right back to get it into 4WD low and when in 2WD the leaver would be right down forward. Guessing you guys will know what I adjusted lol, unsure of the name but was an easy fix.
Suspension lift is also all done, went smoothly except for the front right shock which the nut was spinning the thread so I had to cut right through the nut and thread to pull the shock out. And realized it was a lot easier to get the springs out when both wheels were off and the axle would drop a lot further down.
Before pic up above and now! Am happy with how much it lifted, took it for a bit of a test spin and performed well. Now just need some nice black steel rims and some new 32" or 33" mud tires.

Awesome! Well done. The adjustment was the grub screw on the first link out of the gearshift aye?
Good luck with the rims, theyre like hens teeth to get in 15x8's in white, let alone black. Can get them in for about 170 each before GST. 15x7's in white are easier via BG world wheels, Speedy in wellington, or maybe even Drury tyres (which is where i managed to find one to replace my stolen spare) If you find some Black rims (im especially keen on the Crager soft 8's) let me know.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:11 pm
by RJ
Rych wrote:Now just need some nice black steel rims and some new 32" or 33" mud tires.
Hey Rych, have been looking around for some rims as well, as xj mentioned sort of like hens teeth at the moment. I have found some in Aus and just waiting to hear back about shipping. If your interested that are 15x8 Sunraysia in Black at AUS $85 ea. Might be we can do a deal if we buy more and might help with shipping. Let me know if you are interested.
Cheers
Rod
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:49 pm
by flyingbrick
Whats wrong with the steel rims that 4wd bits sell?

Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:18 pm
by TJ
Possible group buy???
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CRR%2D3975812P&N=700+400292+306459+4294755963+115&autoview=sku
Although I would love to have some of the AEV rims, but they are like USD300 each + freight. And no I wasn't the one with a Lotto from Cambridge.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:47 pm
by Fen
I would be in on a GB for some black steelies if there's one in the offing.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:22 am
by xj
flyingbrick wrote:Whats wrong with the steel rims that 4wd bits sell?

Ummmm.. Nothing wrong with them at all, if you have a vehicle that they fit on to.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:25 am
by xj
Need a negative offset pal. Those ones linked arent any good.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:52 am
by flyingbrick
xj wrote:flyingbrick wrote:Whats wrong with the steel rims that 4wd bits sell?

Ummmm.. Nothing wrong with them at all, if you have a vehicle that they fit on to.
oh....haha. I do!
Silly jeeps

Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 1:52 pm
by TJ
xj wrote:Need a negative offset pal. Those ones linked arent any good.
That was just a sample link

You've been driving a Jeep for far too long
May more options available in the US, its just the freight will kill the economies of it.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:22 pm
by xj
TJ wrote:xj wrote:Need a negative offset pal. Those ones linked arent any good.
That was just a sample link

You've been driving a Jeep for far too long
May more options available in the US, its just the freight will kill the economies of it.
I had a scroll through summits site and the only 15x8 with our stud pattern are two types of blingy silvert things... yeuch..... guys down at 4wdaccessories can get em... but not cheap.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:36 pm
by Rych
hmm I have had a bit of a look around and maybe be able to source a set through a mates uncle who owns a car parts business and sells almost everything! But I would be keen to join a bulk order if others here are into that.
Well at the end of the first day with the lift the truck started making a pretty bad knocking sound at the front left corner when I went over a bump or made the Jeep jolt with a jumping take off. I checked everything I changed and all was firm. I took it into my local mechanic to give it a bit of a check over and it looks like the trail arm bushes are worn out. You can move the trail arm from side to side slightly. I'm not 100% certain that's what it is, but it seems like that's the only thing which is loose and I'm guessing that would make a pretty large thump.
Only thing is my mechanic could only source new bushes at a price of $450 for just the left bushes!! Wondering if I could get them cheaper, I will have a look around but that seems like heaps for just bushes!
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:17 pm
by TJ
Rych wrote:hmm I have had a bit of a look around and maybe be able to source a set through a mates uncle who owns a car parts business and sells almost everything! But I would be keen to join a bulk order if others here are into that.
Well at the end of the first day with the lift the truck started making a pretty bad knocking sound at the front left corner when I went over a bump or made the Jeep jolt with a jumping take off. I checked everything I changed and all was firm. I took it into my local mechanic to give it a bit of a check over and it looks like the trail arm bushes are worn out. You can move the trail arm from side to side slightly. I'm not 100% certain that's what it is, but it seems like that's the only thing which is loose and I'm guessing that would make a pretty large thump.
Only thing is my mechanic could only source new bushes at a price of $450 for just the left bushes!! Wondering if I could get them cheaper, I will have a look around but that seems like heaps for just bushes!
You can probably buy new after market (i.e. beefier) control arms for cheaper than that. Is it the upper or lower control arm in the front that is making noises? A control arm with shot bushing will make interesting thumping noises under load/stress.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:37 pm
by Rych
I see, it's the lower front left control arm. Aftermarket control arms such as:
http://www.wooders.com.au/index.php?mai ... cts_id=465WOW I just found a replacement busher for $36 bucks!
http://www.wooders.com.au/index.php?mai ... cts_id=461Is it really worth going all out or is there other mods that would be better to do before control arms?
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:47 pm
by xj
JUSTJEEP on trademe has original rubber bushes. Flick a question on one of his auctions. Nolathane bushes are crap I.M.O. May be great on drag cars, flog out like crazy on things that move and stretch. Others may choose to argue.
Theres a place somewhere in auckland called "the mount shop" i think that can make some whizz bang rubber ones
Got a spare set of upper control arms and welded a tube into the centre of them, popped the new bushes in and theyre good as.

Actually... come to think of it.. i think i have some nolathane/prothane ones for lower arms in my garage.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:18 pm
by Rych
I see, but wouldn't a cheap replacement of the bushes for now to get rid of the horrid thumps be a good idea? Will those ones from Wooder's not last long?
Do you have prothane ones I could buy off ya?
Justjeep has no listings, so I can't contact them at the moment.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:10 pm
by xj
the type from wooders that you linked i would prefer over the prothane/nolathane ones.
Ill check to see if the prothane ones i have are still there.
Ill also contact greg tonight to see what hes got.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:12 pm
by Rych
Oh cool cheers.
Wooders ones made from Clevite? Never heard of this..
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:26 pm
by xj
Rych wrote:Oh cool cheers.
Wooders ones made from Clevite? Never heard of this..
Its both a company and a process..... "CLEVland graphITE"
Heres a link:
http://ech.cwru.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=CC13
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:08 pm
by TJ
BTW, those Wooders control arms are for JKs, not TJs. I agree with sticking to rubber bushing. I just got the poly bushing on my motor mounts and replaced them with rubber ones, there is definitely a lot of difference. No more vibrations through everywhere (finally tracked them down).
I have Rubicon Express rear upper control arms from Wooders. I do like the look of these:
http://www.rokmen.com/products/suspension_systems/rokmen_control_arms/rokmen_control_arms.htmlKeep in mind that on a TJ, front and rear lower control arms the same part number!
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:19 am
by xj
Greg has 4 bushes in stock.
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:06 pm
by Rych
OK so the Wooder's ones are good if I'm just wanting bushes for now?
How would I get in contact with Greg, I would probably rather buy from NZ rather than have to order overseas if I can help it. What type did he have?
Re: Lifting a Jeep Wrangler
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:32 pm
by xj
Rych wrote:OK so the Wooder's ones are good if I'm just wanting bushes for now?
How would I get in contact with Greg, I would probably rather buy from NZ rather than have to order overseas if I can help it. What type did he have?
Theyre the same as the Wooders ones.
Greg - 0210554549, he knows youre likely to be in touch