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Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:21 pm
by kbushnz
You wont get it in...too tight.
The 2.5 inch pipe I used ended up being 3 inch Outside diameter so fitted the 3 bolt flange. And ended up quashed up.
The 3 inch bends are actually bigger than 3 inch and almost 3.5 inch outside diameter as the size is for the inner diameter when it comes to steam pipe.
Does that make sense?
Here are some close ups of the pipe before weld up.
Might give you some ideas.



Have fun.
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:13 am
by Rbnutz
Very nice Calvin.
Looks like another of your engineering designs I need to pinch

Gota finish the bumper first
Looking good. Keep it up.

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:14 pm
by kbushnz
Update:
After two off road runs with the new 3 inch system and dump pipe....Wow is all I can say.
In low range it really flys, give it the welly and it just gets up and goes. Where as before it would just die.
Like a new truck.
On road its alot better but the auto doesn't let it sit in its sweet spot, manual boxes would see some great improvements here.
But its the off road improvements I was after.
Now intercooler.
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:08 am
by Heath
Is the 90 deg bend a 2.5 inch ID or 3 inch ID steam pipe bend? The main pipe is a 2.5 inch ID steam pipe correct?
What is the thickness of the steel? might be able to just get some steel pipe in that size. Of course getting short offcuts might be a little hard to do

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Got to put together some bits for a my dump pipe and then give it to a proper welder to "glue together".
My new system so far (3" from dump back) is okay, increased spin up on the turbo and EGT's are down a little, but that could be just because of the less restrictive muffler rather then the larger diameter pipe. Sounds a little hollow at idle but good at speed. The drone I was worried about disappears with throttle and the tyre noise covers it anyway. Cant wait to put the dump on.
Getting injectors and glow plugs done today so should be a little better with that too.

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:51 am
by kbushnz
The bend is a light weight steam pipe 2.5 inch dia.
Only a few $. From Steel and Tube. In Penrose.
Will look for P/N later.
You can have a section of 2.5 inch pipe....
Its OD is 3....
Call me in the evening on 09 833 6262
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:51 pm
by Heath
Thanks Calvin, I'll give you a bell later.
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:18 pm
by kbushnz
Heath...
P/N for bend is 65LSWE (Butt weld light weight short radius 90 bend 65mm inside dia)
From Steel and Tube 124 Hugo Johnstone Drive. Penros.
Only branch in the country to have it.
They do cash sales and EFTPOS.
Still give me that call and I can explain how I used that bend.
I will grab the straight pipe and bring it home with me.
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:40 pm
by Heath
Bend ordered and on its way to my work address. Less then $20 delivered to my work (cheaper then driving there and less time in bloody traffic too.

)
Thanks Calvin, you're a legend.

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:00 pm
by Ginzu8
does any one here willing to let me borrow their old dump pipe so i can get one made??? i just dont want to take it out of my car and not able to drive it while i have some one make it for me..
I will be happy to pay for full shipping..
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:01 pm
by kbushnz
Heath straight pipe is now in my garage and has your name on it
Ginzu8 What vehicle is the 1KZTE in? You can use mine if you like.
I am in Auckland. Its from a KZJ78 1994 Prado.
They are different between the Square shape, new shape Prado's.
And also the Surf one is different again.
Only thing it would be useful is a template of the mating face.
But a new gasket from Toyota will give you the same pattern.
I could scan the flange 1:1.
Cheers
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:34 pm
by Heath
Might pop round during the weekend if that suits, or can do ane night this week if that's better.
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:27 pm
by Ginzu8
kbushnz , my car is a 1993 LJ78..
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:50 pm
by Heath
Heath wrote:Bend ordered and on its way to my work address. Less then $20 delivered to my work (cheaper then driving there and less time in bloody traffic too.

)
Hasnt arrive yet

Seems penrose is further then I thought from birkenhead. Glad I paid by credit card cause if the courier lost it I can cancel the charge with the bank (but only if I cant get another one for nothing of course as I've already paid for it and the courier).

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:33 am
by kbushnz
Ginzu8 wrote:kbushnz , my car is a 1993 LJ78..
Hi Ginzu8
The LJ's came out with the 2L and 2LTE which is a 2.4 engine.
I think you will find the turbo arrangement different to the 1KZTE.
I don't even know if they use the same turbo.
So my dump pipe will be of no use to you.
Start a new thread looking for dump pipe for a 2LTE ?
Cheers
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:07 pm
by Ginzu8
cheers mate. its the thought that counts.. someone else on this forum is sorting one out for me from welly..
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:58 pm
by Heath
Ginzu8 wrote:cheers mate. its the thought that counts.. someone else on this forum is sorting one out for me from welly..
Had a look at this web site (dont buy from them tooooooo expensive). The 2lt and the 1kz te (90 series prado) dumps look the same
http://www.eng-tek.com.au/product_info. ... cts_id=240 so maybe they share a common turbo.
I'm going to make mine. just got to lay onder the beast for a while and day dream up a design. Or just copy the ones in that website. If I split the steam pipe bend in half and then insert some wedges of steel (or just crush it into an oval maybe) I will almost be there...

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:12 pm
by kbushnz
I think the photo on the web site is misleading as its the same one for all the toyota's .
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:08 pm
by Heath
I have to admit I thought the same. Maybe they all run the same turbo?

Perhaps buying from them at that price is not a good idea ($500+ is a bit much for a small bit of pipe with a couple of flanges). The phrase 'rip off' comes to mind.
Hell, maybe someone in NZ should start making them...

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:11 am
by Ginzu8
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:09 pm
by bigstu
Hi last night i was on trademe found some after market stainless steel performance dump pipes I hit them up about the possibility of making heaps for the surf and prado turbos, the other ones they have are selling for around $200 which i thought was fairly cheap does anyone think they would buy one if they developed some? i mentioned theyd probly sell a few as no one seems to make them over here, they are after some factory down pipes to work off does anyone have a surf and a prado dump pipe theyre not using anymore?
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:28 pm
by chrome
i have one but i am lending it out soon to a member on here.
after that tho
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:37 pm
by Rbnutz
I maybe be keen on one for a prado. Would they bolt up to the factory exhaust or require a modified one? Do you know what there products are like? I'm sure there will be a few keen...
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:48 pm
by UBZ
yep , id be keen for a Surf one.
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:17 pm
by snork
UBZ wrote:yep , id be keen for a Surf one.
+1
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:17 pm
by bigstu
they are sold by driven performance not sure where they are made ill ask, they can prob be made the same length flanges etc just 3 inch
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:25 am
by kbushnz
Be careful using thin walled pipe for a dump pipe, as they will crack.
And stainless doesnt like getting wet (rapidly cooled when playing in water), it will crack. Plenty of comments on the net.
Your dump pipe ideally needs to be thick walled. Thats why I went steel....
Stainless are o.k for town cars...
The newer prado's are easy to do, but the older ones are tight as it did a "goose neck" to get it out over the chassis rail.
You would need to do one on a truck and then mock it up on a jig for mass production.
Calvin
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:44 pm
by Heath
I still want one. Waiting for a turbo flange at the moment so I can at least make a start.

Of course if I could just buy one and be done with the whole mod thing ... Nah more fun this way.

Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:10 pm
by bigstu
oh well i might just tryn make my own was worth a try. if anyone would like the stainless idea get hold of the guys at drivenperformance.co.nz they seem quite keen to get a few going and may even do some thick steel versions just need some manifolds to copy think theyre in auckland so maybe someone up there could use there truck as guinea pig?
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:27 pm
by chrome
stainless is for show cars only imo, the amount of times people have asked me to fix cracked headers off their ricers, go heavy or at least medium wall pipe in mild steel
the cash you save will buy at least 1 box of beer
Re: 1k zt dump pipe
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:40 pm
by lincooln
the cash you save will buy at least 1 box of beer
