Reefton Winter 2013

[QUADRACER]

There will be something for everybody, even the hard core like a scenic trip too.

[kbjj]

There will be something for everybody, even the hard core like a scenic trip too.

It's also nice to have a trip without bending something . I'm keen to learn of some more tracks (easy or hard) and have never walked into the big river mines etc
Not wanting to give anyone false hope, or put anyone off....six or so months back "gismo" took his ifs surf up slab hut with minor panel rubbing, but needed to winch. Two years back we had an ifs surf come through the chasm with us, but he drove sensibly, knew it's limits and just winched more often, but it sounds like the chasm has changed alot sinse then. Expect panel rubbing, bush pin strips, and carry some spares. If you rely on my spares, the price increases depending on the difficulty of the situation
Lots of fun to be had, great country, and I enjoy the camp fire at night

[rokhound]

From my experience of 4wd trips (having been on safari jobs that you could drive the subaru through with 100 + trucks to trips like our one a couple of weeks back, which we have done with 3 trucks), I don't like going on any trip with more than (and I mean an absolute maximum of) 7 vehicles. 4-6 is my ideal, but they better be all set up well. The things is when you run highly modified rigs, it is the really dumb shit that lets you down and breaks or fails. And when a truck like has a hissy it can hold a trip up for quite a while (and this has happened to all of us at some point).
Add into that mix rigs and operators that are not capable of driving through and need to be towed or winched all the time and you end up with a very long day.
The guys who were with me at xmas know what I am talking about here. We drove 5ish kms in 7 hours (and that was with some well preped kit), shit can happen, and often does. (and it is not a dig at anyone person, it is just the way it is).
Richard would be one of the most knowledgeable people on this site with regards to the Reefton area, and his opinion,(and others with similar experience of the area) should be listened too if you want to run a trip over there that is the size that this is looking like being.
Not sure if I can be bothered with so many rigs going as I am a grumpy old cnut and although breakdowns don't phase me too much, vehicles and drivers that are not prepped for the terrain that they are encountering does.
Multiple trips is the only way this is going to work and for that to happen we need multiple trip leaders who know the area quite well (and that isn't me, I haven't done Reefton for 10yrs, and I'm not sure my POS will make it in mud with it being a v8 an' all )

[fourby]

you can never take to many spare parts when heading to reefton. i seem to break something nearly everytime i go youll have a ball no matter what the level of your truck is, just have to know your limits and stick to the tracks that suit you and your truck. my 2c

[Bulletproof]

I agree with Rok. For harder stuff you don't want many trucks and they all need a winch and be well set up. Shit can happen on any trip but people need to be able to help themselves as much as possible and not rely on others to do trips they shouldn't be on.

But in saying that, many of the harder trips like Climbing Slab or petrol hill can also be quite easy by doing them in reverse and going down instead of up.

So there is plenty to do for everyone and everyone can have a beer together at the end of the day and talk bullshit which is what makes a good trip.

Cheers Richard

[crazyclark31]

yep i want to head up and learn some of the country up there. While i don't have lokkers and such i'm not afraid to push myself and my vehcile.
While we are talking vehciles do those that are organising this object to people using chains?
Reason is down here most of us prefer to use 33s and chains as opposed to 35s. Just suits what we do better. And haven't yet been on a hard run when i couldn't go were guys with 35in simex etc go. Obviously not on rocks though.
I'm wanting to do some good hard runs up there but don't want to be "that guy" whos always needing towed and using chains would stop that from happening.
I have no objections to people not allowing them just want to know so i can plan my trip accordinly

Cheers
Mike

[albundy]

That was a good day, an easy day really in building for the next day the chasm when Pete got a dose of the "sickness" hope you have recovered for this year Pete

Scholl holidays for NSW are June 28 to July 14th so I'll be flying around those dates, make it the middle weekend. My mate Rude is thinking of coming as well, so I will need another seat in a tough truck please, I assume I'm with you Tim???
Make sure the chasm is on the tough truck list please, I miss it so much.

Just had a week on Fraser Island (again) can't get enougfh of the place. Found some nice narly tracks on nthe western side of the island where tourists don't go.

Looking forward to this one guys.


AL

[petefj40]

That was a good day, an easy day really in building for the next day the chasm when Pete got a dose of the "sickness" hope you have recovered for this year Pete

Shitting blood actually.

I'm keen to do this one too Al. But like rok said, a small number is better. I think that last time was about the limit?

[Bulletproof]

Hi Al

Unless someone has reopened the Chasm recently, to my knowledge it is still closed with washouts

Cheers Richard

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

Ok so heres my thoughts: I think we should stop going on about whos trucks are better than others and whos got what on there truck and instead organise trips to suits people and there trucks. These people with trucks not as good as others have to start somewere
So heres what I thought; now this will depend on amount of trucks:
I think you wouldnt want to many more than 8 trucks doing the tougher tracks at one time so we could run them in two groups, Each group with there own trip leader who knows the tracks well.
Maybe the first day the first group goes into the chasm while the second group does slab hut creek, petrol hill and as i like to call it the saw mill track
Then the second day the two groups switch.
Then have a third group to accomidate the shinys and senic people, maybe look at big river, napolenians hill etc.
These are just rough ideas will depend on the chasms track conditions, weather etc on the day.

So I will put my hand up to be a trip leader for one of the tough truck groups for the trips away, so what I want to know is who is keen to be in my group?

We may need another trip leader for the shinys who knows the tracks, so if your keen please step forward?
At the end of each day we can all catch up for a beer and talk shit around the fire

[niblik]

I'll be in with ya jase.

I too believe people have to start somewhere and thus learn what needs modding/adjusting first.

[rokhound]

As a trip leader Jase, what is your relative experience with the area?
Don't care about what your truck is or isn't capable of, just want to know how well you know the area. The reason I ask is I know Richards credentials with regards to the coast ( they are well documented etc) but I haven't seen or heard of any of your trips there.
This is a genuine request, not a bag out (as some tossers may like to take it), and is one of the major reasons I generally never get involved with major trips with people I haven't gone in with before.

[petefj40]

Ok so heres my thoughts: I think we should stop going on about whos trucks are better than others and whos got what on there truck

I was only stating that there are so many trucks interested, that's all. It puts some people off if there's going to be a big bunch will all sorts of trucks going. So yea, good idea Jase!

[petefj40]

and is one of the major reasons I generally never get involved with major trips with people I haven't gone in with before.

Good point rok.

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

As a trip leader Jase, what is your relative experience with the area?
Don't care about what your truck is or isn't capable of, just want to know how well you know the area. The reason I ask is I know Richards credentials with regards to the coast ( they are well documented etc) but I haven't seen or heard of any of your trips there.
This is a genuine request, not a bag out (as some tossers may like to take it), and is one of the major reasons I generally never get involved with major trips with people I haven't gone in with before.

You'd have to be stupid to put your hand up as a trip leader if you didnt know the area very well.
Alot of trips go on over on the coast but just dont get plastered all over the net.

[QUADRACER]

It's a fun weekend, lets not made it too serious, the chasm has been done by a few on here,but as Richard has stated it's back to level playing fields if no one has been through lately, I felt if there is a trip leader, he can always take advise from other that know the area.most of us have been there at one time or another.
And forgot too mention I will be in your group, always like a good time.

[H2OLOVA]

The Pom in his truck and me in mine will be in your group. As long as thats not too many Jasons

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

So heres the list to add yourself too.

CCS
Niblik
H20lova
Rick (cant remember his user name )
Quadracer

[crazyclark31]

Have never been there before so can someone that has please put us in whatever group that has a spare spot
.just want to experiance the coast tracks.Sick of hearing about all the awsome things about it second hand.
As long as its got some good hard and technical bits i'm happy.
Thanks Guys

[Smurf]

We still need to confirm a date as Als school dates don't line up with ours.

I'm Happy to take a shiny trip trough Napoleons or The Waitahu, but would love to tag along for a day with tough truck group trough the Chasm.
So if there is a seat spare day one through the Chasm, then happy to take shiney trips on day two three or four.

[mike]

We still need to confirm a date as Als school dates don't line up with ours.

I'm Happy to take a shiny trip trough Napoleons or The Waitahu, but would love to tag along for a day with tough truck group trough the Chasm.
So if there is a seat spare day one through the Chasm, then happy to take shiney trips on day two three or four.

I'm happy as well to trip lead the shiny's through some of the shiny tracks. Done them a bit but will need help in finding them again

I'm ok with not doing the chasm in the surf as I do have to get back to welly in one piece. If the opportunity arrises to do it then I'll be a starter as the surf is only on 33's, IFS and diesel but the driver can go anywhere

Some of these tracks are serious, long, remote (no simple tow outs) and cold at this time of year. As stated before people should know the limit of their trucks and themselves. There is the possibility of dead trucks in tracks or cold rivers with dead batteries, blown diffs, blown CV's, tyres off rims, snapped winch cables, sheared PTO shafts, bent steering, sheared hubs, vehicles in rivers with dead engines and the list goes on. You HAVE to be prepared to handle and help in these circumstances and prepare your truck to the best of your ability to not succumb to the above BEFORE you even home. This also applies to the shiny trip within reason (90% of the above shouldnt happen in a shiny trip but 90% of the above will happen in the tough trip)

Anyway enough of the precautionary stuff thats been said over and over, at least it will be good to catch up with everyone again. Even if I'm just stuck at the campground polishing the rocker cover it will be an awesome trip

CCS
Niblik
H20lova
Hiriklux ?? Rick (cant remember his user name )
Quadracer
Mike (can lead shiney trip on any number of days if required)

[kbjj]

CCS
Niblik
H20lova
Hiriklux ?? Rick (cant remember his user name )
Quadracer
Mike (can lead shiney trip on any number of days if required)
kbjj

I also recommend a shovel or pick per person (passengers included) on the chasm trip. Many hands make light work

[petefj40]

CCS
Niblik
H20lova
Hiriklux ?? Rick (cant remember his user name )
Quadracer
Mike (can lead shiney trip on any number of days if required)
kbjj
petefj40 (I'd look forward to riding with this group)


Just dates needed now.

[passengerpete]

CCS
Niblik
H20lova
Hiriklux ?? Rick (cant remember his user name )
Quadracer
Mike (can lead shiney trip on any number of days if required)
kbjj
petefj40 (I'd look forward to riding with this group)
passengerpete

[passengerpete]

just so im on the same page, this is a list of who is going ? or is this a list of who is expecting massive damage doing xtreme trips ?

[crazyclark31]

just so im on the same page, this is a list of who is going ? or is this a list of who is expecting massive damage doing xtreme trips ?

my thoughts to

[QUADRACER]

just a thought, beside your name add which group you see your selfs in.
ie shiney, hard core or average.
the groups can then be selected as per day trips.
if your not sure start with the easy stuff, as it is easier to change go up,
but will incure damage, or breakages if you get it wrong.and basically not have a good time.

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

just so im on the same page, this is a list of who is going ? or is this a list of who is expecting massive damage doing xtreme trips ?

my thoughts to

The list I have started is for the guys with the tough trucks that are well prepared and keen to give there trucks a hammering
Maybe someone like mike or smurf could start another list for the other group so people can register interest for that also.

I also like smurfs idea of doing an overnight run into lake daniels, I think that would be a good way to finish the trip before we all go home, This trip can cater for everybody from shinys to tough trucks and has a massive fire to sit around at night

[QUADRACER]

CCS
Niblik
H20lova
Hiriklux ?? Rick (cant remember his user name )
Quadracer ( any trips/ easy and hard core)
Mike (can lead shiney trip on any number of days if required)
kbjj
petefj40 (I'd look forward to riding with this group)
passengerpete

[Smurf]

Ok, As suggested, those interested in a shiney/not so shiney trip throw your name up here.
Only thing, must have rated recovery hooks, strop and a spade.

Smurf