"SAT 11TH" WAIMAK RIVER(STH SIDE)-snorkal and muds

hulux-happy · Post by **hulux-happy** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:14 pm

spankmeister wrote:
hulux-happy wrote: once i have done the south side track tommorow with azza and my mate, i will post details and pics of the harder stuff. still haven't heard back from e-can, two days running now. so as i said before, i wont lead a trip up there on the good tracks unless i can conferm from e-can if we can.

p.s. if anyone is keen for tommorows trip we will be at the south river bank, west of motorway bridge, directly across from jetboat ramp at 11am. could be a bit of trial and error thou nuting out a good route.

cheers..

I'm just wondering why it's OK to lead a trip tomorrow, but you won't do one on Saturday unless ECAN gives their blessing. Isn't that a bit contradictory? What's the difference between Wed and Sat, apart from 3 days, if ECAN say no?

because it isnt a planed trip. its an info gathering exercise... to see track condition for different trucks.. i have stated the deal already with this trip.. cheers

spankmeister · Post by **spankmeister** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:19 pm

It doesn't matter if it's a planned trip or not though in my opinion. If ECAN forbid the use of the area, then I don't see how you could get away with saying to the ranger, "its not a planned trip"

Just my 2c

hulux-happy · Post by **hulux-happy** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:43 pm

you have it all wrong mate. i am planning a trip... i am sticking to stop backs.... i am following the rules as far as acces goes... i will only be checking out where we allowed to go and seeing if there are areas that will restrict the trip enough to make it no worth doing on saterday. the last thing im going to do is, go and get busted doing something that i shouldn't be doing and thats the point of tommorow. sorry i thought that was clear.

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:33 pm

fweddy wrote:Was that the section just down stream of the pine plantation near the Ashley village?

ummmm....

it was south of a pine bit yep, but not too sure about the village bit.. we dropped in at the main road bridge by woodend and ventured up from there.. wasnt very far up at all..

should be a good day..

Shane · Post by **Shane** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:23 pm

albundy wrote:Have you considered the Ashley track into the Okuku confluence and upstream from there. You will get plenty of mud, river crossing, tight trees to manouvere through, rocks to go rock hopping over all in a dedicated area. not much further north then the waimak. Selwyn is dry and boring. We lead fundraising trips down there for those with NO 4wd experience what so ever.
Al

I'd be keen for the Ashley track on sat if thats what you deside.

Shane

allovermud · Post by **allovermud** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:38 pm

hey hope u guys have fun when u do end up going... i gota go on a fukn school trip

oh yeh i think sum of us jsut need to rmember wat we arre here on this site for... to discuss 4wd topics in general and stuff involvd with that, not to hassle at each other about wat they think, like a bunch of school girls. seriously jsut let it flow if you dnt have anyhting nice to say dnt say it simple.(well unless in the guns topic which mite of savd a fine or sumtng)..not intending any offesne or anyhtings..im jsut a newbie and dnt know bugger all... hillux happy is a great guy helpd us all on the sat trip he knows most of his s*#t :lol:

and wats wrong with a bit of a challeng a.
luke

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:56 pm

So we sit here and watch you guys go into an area we know ecan is trying to keep 4wds out of :roll:

Not trying to stir anything here just passing on info. As has been mentioned if not in this thread then on others that we have to play by the rules if we want to maintain access to these areas. I've been going out to the Waimak in buggies, bikes and 4wds for well over 10 years and have done the southside of that riverbed 100's of times. As mentioned in an earlier post, i have been spoken to by the Ecan officer out at the river.

This is how Newbies learn stuff, so don't think that we're trying to hassle you cause we ain't :roll:

Just passing on that facts and a bit of our experience, sure we could say nothing. but whos helping who if i do that. :?:

allovermud · Post by **allovermud** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:05 pm

ok yes fair comment. sorry i didnt mean to stir anything either.yes playnig by the rules is the way to go. and thanks for the enlightenment h2olova,u learn sumtng new everyday.ill wont say anything more...have fun guys when u go out.cheers

rangimotors · Post by **rangimotors** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:08 pm

I for one am grateful for the heads up i'd rather no where i can and can't go before getting in trouble for being somewhere i shouldn't. im happy to explore and play in the places we can rather than piss them off and find our selves baned from everywhere. So long as its not having a go at me, or anyone else as far as im concerned the more info the better. cheers
(i think once again we can probably put it down to missunderstanding what someones saying, just reading a post can be taken many ways im sure often its just taking the piss but hard to no if people are serious)

hulux-happy · Post by **hulux-happy** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:25 pm

ok guys i have the word.
we meet up with the area ranger who is in charge of organising areas for 4wd use. his name is simon woods (e-can ranger). he was fairly informitive about whats going on. as for south side trip, i dont think it is worth the hassel as there are areas they dont want 4wd's (4wding) from the creek crossing just west of motorway its a horse riding area so limited vehical access. there is about to be signs put up in the river bed just north of that area for nesting of a rare bird. so off limits to 4wd and cars for that fact. as for stop banks, its still a bit gray. but i have been told they dont like any driving unless on a designated road. i.e. shingle or atleast graded to some degree. so sections of the track cant be accesed from one or both end in between the groyns as it may lead down a stop bank, not on a formed road. he went on telling me about ho the stop banks are important for flood protetion and so on.
now aleast its been heard from the source.

so the ashley it is i guess. so we need to work out a time to suit and a meeting point as i have never been to the ashley to 4wd i dont know where to go and am hopeing someone can take over for me to organise that stuff. i am good for whenever and where ever..

i couldn't end without posting some pics so here you are. enjoy.

the group. azza, wayne, and hilux happy

wayne in a puddle. azza looking on. hmmm,"should I"

the rescue squad. and look at that , while i take the pic, the partner gets the strop redy. nice

now my turn to get stuck. "I CANT WAIT TO GET THE LOCKERS IN"

tipical track condition, me no problems. the other two well clearance has alot to do with it.

hulux-happy · Post by **hulux-happy** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:37 pm

one more thing. i have passed on my e-mail add to the ranger . so he will send me some maps of the planed 4wd areas, along with the areas we can and cant go. in plane black and white (or coulor). and what they have installed for 4wding at the waimak. i will post a new forum with those goodys soon..

cheers all...

Azza · Post by **Azza** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:23 am

Abosolutely Awsome day!!, fine weather with lots of mud, kudos to Hilux-Happy for a great trip that pushed my truck to it's limits, I learned a lot and found out what some of the 'real-world' limitations of my truck are (bigger tyres and greater ground clearance are a must)

Considering he doesn't have any diff locks, I was surprised just what he could achieve in his 'IFS' surf.... For those of any doubt,... yes, he is completely MAD!! but definitely has the balls!!

No stop-banks were harmed at any time during fun!! :wink:

Az

albundy · Post by **albundy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:39 am

I will start a thread latter today about a trip down the Ashley to the Okuku confluence then up to the bridge and to the pub. I will lead the trip and Hiriklux will come along to help out. Thinking about lunchtime as I have some shit to do in the morning.
Al

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:12 am

hulux-happy wrote:ok guys i have the word.
we meet up with the area ranger who is in charge of organising areas for 4wd use. his name is simon woods (e-can ranger). he was fairly informitive about whats going on. as for south side trip, i dont think it is worth the hassel as there are areas they dont want 4wd's (4wding) from the creek crossing just west of motorway its a horse riding area so limited vehical access. there is about to be signs put up in the river bed just north of that area for nesting of a rare bird. so off limits to 4wd and cars for that fact. as for stop banks, its still a bit gray. but i have been told they dont like any driving unless on a designated road. i.e. shingle or atleast graded to some degree. so sections of the track cant be accesed from one or both end in between the groyns as it may lead down a stop bank, not on a formed road. he went on telling me about ho the stop banks are important for flood protetion and so on.
now aleast its been heard from the source.

so the ashley it is i guess. so we need to work out a time to suit and a meeting point as i have never been to the ashley to 4wd i dont know where to go and am hopeing someone can take over for me to organise that stuff. i am good for whenever and where ever..

Hey great pix there Steve! And it's good to hear you went to the trouble of getting in touch with the ranger. :thumright: I'm looking forward to me 40's problems getting sorted so I can get back out there with ya. :bounce: