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im after a good cheepish .22 for killing possums etc what can u guys reccomend. the guy from the local hunting and fishing is reccomending a savage mark 2
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best bang for $$ still has to be norinco jw15. trigger can be tweaked easy enough but the safty sucks.

the savages can be a good rifle, they shoot really well. more expencive than the norinco. the savage accutrigger you either hate it or love it. i had a non accutrigger and the trigger sucked majorly. however it can be tweaked up nicly. a few of the non-accutriggers may be floating around and can be bought rather cheaply.
the mages are really easy to load and work well. plus the 10 shot is far far bette than the norinco's annoying 5 shot !

don't forget scope. a nice little 3-9 AO work well. personal favorite is mueler APV.
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I recently grabed a marlin 597 bolt action 22. It was 500 brand new, groups well, package deal that came with 2 mags a silencer a scope and a brick of ammo. Thats about as cheap as they get don't they.
I will definatly switch back to a semi auto when I get a new one in the future.
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I used to have a little brno bolt action 22 (cant remember the model), I brought it secondhand and it wasnt cheap, most of the chinese junk thats jams up was half the price but the reliability of it was was more than worth while spending the extra money, it had a very smooth action and it never jammed on me the whole time I owned it.... and theres nothing worse than a jammed up 22 :roll: :roll:

I always prefered the bolt action coz 22's so often involve more than 1 person and vehicles and spotlighting and sometimes kids and being bolt action it can be seen to be safe (by everyone involved) with the bolt open :wink:
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Rossi single shot blued or s/steel. Reloaders do .22 stainless for $350. Safe. New. also a good gun if you've got kids and want To teach them with a safe gun. Cheap enough gun to chuck behind the seat of your truck :)
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why go single shot when you can get bolt actions for $200-$300 and even semis for less than $200.
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the savage was in a package deal for 500 with silencer 2 mags a scope and brick of ammo, the jw15 is in the same sorta paccage for 300??? so what to do
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hunting and fishing have a good deal for a norinco 22 magnum for 300
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If it was anyother than the jw15 id say go savage, but there is a shooting school (for licences) that uses these jw15's and they get an absolute hiding. Thousands of rounds and the guy wont buy anything else. Yeah they are a little rough in the finishing but is the savage 200 bucks better? I have a savage bolt action .223 and its great but given the cost differnce here of 40% I'd go norinko. Hell I looked long and hard at a norinko M14 knock off a while back and only backed down when the wife relented about my trials vehicle purchase.

End of the day do you need a flash as gun for short range possoms and rabits that may get a hiding in the back of a wagon? The money you save on the savage would buy a lot of fancy bits for the jw15 (nice scope and bipod) and still have some $$$ for ammo. Just make sure the shop has a no questions asked swap or money back policy if you do happen to get a dud. When you do get one go out and put a 100 - 150 rounds through it in a reasonable time to pick up any feed problems etc (then you can go back in reasonable time and argue). I read a while ago that soem of these cheaper rifles dont like a full mag so may be something to watch for (just run the mag one less than capacity).

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Nailz wrote:I recently grabed a marlin 597 bolt action 22. It was 500 brand new, groups well, package deal that came with 2 mags a silencer a scope and a brick of ammo. Thats about as cheap as they get don't they.
I will definatly switch back to a semi auto when I get a new one in the future.



I two have a marlin .22 and love it. Very accurate rifle. Was tempted to get a norinco. you get alot for your money but thought it was better to get something a bit better as it gets used often and I will keep it for a life time. Really nice american gun.

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i have the savage, sounds like the same package silancer etc, really like it but obviously depends what you want to pay.
Depending on what you use it for i have to agree go the bolt action, you can get 10 shot semi's very cheap but i like bolts, they are safe, they don't jam, you can store the bolt seperatly for saftey, they are easier to clean and my favourite reason it you use way less ammo and shoot better because it takes longer and you can't just keep pulling the trigger, why shoot ten shots to kill when 1 will do the job?
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When I got my bolt action the original intention was to teach this chick i was rooting how to shoot. My worry was that if she shot a target then the chance of her turning around with the rifle in her hand was maybe rather high.
Therefore if she had a semi....there'd be one up the pipe while pointing at me.
With a bolt action there wouldn't be....
quite a safety thing.

With marlin you cant go wrong. They are simple and reliable.
My dads got a marlin 3030 lever action thats older than me, its shot more deer than ive ever seen, I shot my first with it, and it still groups good at 200.

Marlin is definatley the way to go and theyre brand new 22 bolt actions are cheep enough to warrent buying a new one of them than a second hand other brand :D
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I've owned a few different .22s. Had a stirling semi auto grouped well and was cheap. Had a Ruger 10/22 semi grouped well and was a little more expensive but more reliable. Had a couple of old single shot open sights .22s that shot just as straight as the ruger to 50 metres. But now have a Marlin semi auto with a bull barrel. It shoots as straight as the person behind the trigger.
Any .22 you pick up new will be pretty good, you just have to match the ammunition to the rifle. Some will spray like a shotgun untill you find the right bullets for it. I do more shooting with my .22 than my .308 so I don't mind spending the extra money on it. I've got a leupold VX1 3-9X40 scope and leupold rings on it. It's sweet to shoot , but is it any better than a $300 set up . No , but it's nicer to do the job with. At the end of the day a possum or rabbit thats zapped through the head at 50m can't tell the differnce between a $1000 BRNO or a $150 JW-15
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im starting to steer further and further towards the savage. have heard a few bad storys regaurding the jw 15 feeding problems. the savage sounds like a good alround gun..
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id have to agree, the norinco is a good choice
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h8ruba wrote:im starting to steer further and further towards the savage. have heard a few bad storys regaurding the jw 15 feeding problems. the savage sounds like a good alround gun..


Interesting choices are offered, but please remember, if you buy something that is CHEEP, you get exactly what you paid for.

Consider pulling a few more dollars out of your pocket and look for a BRNO Bolt action.
preferably a model ONE, better finish, barrel and action than the Model TWO although they look much the same.

Or... shop around and see if you can find the best of all (Only MY opinio0n of course) but a Browning Tee bolt.
These are made in belgium, NOT Japan or the states, I have only ever seen four and two of them are mine!! MINE I tell you,

shoots like a dream. easy do MOA over 50M
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ok found a new package deal at hunting and fishing.. magtech semi auto, 2x mags, gun bag ,scope,silencer,and a brick of ammo for 500 bux.... im thinking this is probly the best deal for me
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Never heard anything bad about the magtechs. I think the design is based on a marlin type setup.
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a mate has a magtec not a bad gun, it jams a bit but i guess you expect that from a lowish budget semiauto, might be worth asking if you can upgrade the scope though
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magtech....better off to buy the marlin they copied. heard quuite a few bad things with the magtechs including a few that are probably sitting at the bottom of a creek somewhere !
certain class it as cheap crap.

norinco's do tend to buck the cheap crap sitution. mind you if they paid the workers anything better than slave labour it would cost about the same as most others !

you need to remember that any gun you buy is going to have its faults. the catch is can you fix the faults with minimal cost.

cheap favorits...
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check out trademe, there are two at least, model two brno .22 with scopes etc.

NOT as good as model ones, funny comb to the stock, whereas model one has a straight come. Action is same, robust accurate reliable as all hell.
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I have a Norinco JW15 .22. Its a good rifle, its as acurate as you are, it shoots nice and consistently with Winchester Power Points and i have had no issues with it what so ever.

As its a bolt action, i never use the saftey so thats not an issue, but there's nothing wrong with the good positive feel to the switch. Never had any feeding issues either.

The rifle is based on the Bruno. The trigger and trigger gaurd is identiacal, the magazine is almost interchangable and the dimensions of the stock are almost identical.

The big difference is the quality of the finish on the stock. Its a dark stain on a light coloured wood, so marks when given a good bash.

You get what you pay for, and the Jw15 is very good buying at $150 IMHO 8)

(i almost think it feels nicer to hold than my Mossberg .270)
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h8ruba wrote:ok found a new package deal at hunting and fishing.. magtech semi auto, 2x mags, gun bag ,scope,silencer,and a brick of ammo for 500 bux.... im thinking this is probly the best deal for me


wouldnt go any where near that, my mate got one and it jamed with in the 1st 15 shots.
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asked at hunting and fishing bout that today.... u must thoroughly clean the gun before u use it the first time and also run it in using high velocity ammo. so thats apparantly how to ellimate the initial jamming problem
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h8ruba wrote:asked at hunting and fishing bout that today.... u must thoroughly clean the gun before u use it the first time and also run it in using high velocity ammo. so thats apparantly how to ellimate the initial jamming problem


thats bull shit, my mate did all that, used winchester hollowpoint and had it squeaky clean.as soon as you put 10 rounds through it its dirty again and will start jamming. and theres nothing worse than a jamed 22.
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Quality vs Cheap

Its personal choice but I know what I'd do :wink:
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Go back to the beginning.

H8ruba wants a good cheap .22

Unfortunately H8ruba, the two terms.

good and cheap are generally mutually exclusive.

I went into one of our three large sports shops today, buying new camo pants to hide the lilywhite legs from the jap deer.
spoke to the nice man, after accusing him of being an Aussie, what he had for what seems to be your offer.

A good .22 for around the $500 mark.

we come back to a marlin. that's is the BOTTOM of the range where you could possibly use the word GOOD.
if you want CHEAP, by all means, take the Norinco JW series.

There is also the Russian baikal. GOOD LUCK if you buy one of them.

I honestly suggest you try to raise another $500 and but a quality rifle.

This ends MY input.
Tell us what you bought when you do so.
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ok after listening to what you have all been saying hunting and fishing found me a deal with a rugar 10/22 with 4x32 scope silencer 2x 10shot mags and a gun bag for 600. would this be a better deal.. also regaurding the second hand option i would rather buy a gun off a local shop where it has a waranty and i no the history of it if you no what i mean, at least if something shits it self i always have a waranty to fall back on
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h8ruba wrote:ok after listening to what you have all been saying hunting and fishing found me a deal with a rugar 10/22 with 4x32 scope silencer 2x 10shot mags and a gun bag for 600. would this be a better deal.. also regaurding the second hand option i would rather buy a gun off a local shop where it has a waranty and i no the history of it if you no what i mean, at least if something shits it self i always have a waranty to fall back on


Yeah, good deal. RUGER good guns.

Is this your FIRST firearm?
If so, I earnestly recommend that your forego the good deal and invest in a bolt action rifle.

WHY???

You will become a much better and safer shot if you do.

Why again?


With a semi, it is very easy to fall into the trap of putting as much lead in the air as possible in the hopes that ONE of 'em will hit the target. A trap the most if not all first time semi user fall into.
When my son was learning to shoot, I cut down an old single shot to fit a small boy. 9 years old. wee short stock, short barrell, iron sights, single shot.
bugger is a far better shot than me now, ON THE RANGE!! the theroy was, he had one shot, a bugger of a fiddle putting the next one in the breech, made the first one count.
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just as a note, its worth looking at the .17hmr's much better range and accuracy and still plenty of power for small pests like possums and rabbits etc.
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