V6 surf, new project??

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:24 pm

I want to know from blokes who have experience in these vehicles themslves,
I'm thinking next project could be one of these, solid axle front end, diffs, lockers, etc, could be a good conversion, given they seem already to have a power plant that I prefer.
so tell me what ARE the motors like :?:

and all you know all's who don't have a valid opinion on v6 surf's: ie my mate said this, or I heard that, BLAH, BLAH,BLAH :pukel:
STAY OUT :!:

D1HARD · Post by **D1HARD** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:14 pm

Saw one today at G-GUYs workshop with solid beam and coils up front and a Holden V6 in there it sounded bloody good,seemed to be quite quick off the mark too..

It was a 1989 Hilux Surf base..

Talk to DJ or SUPRASURF they are the resident transplant gurus from what I have seen. :wink:

And I can certainly vouch that DJs work is good... :lol:

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:10 am

cheers, I have a solid axle, supra powered surf already :!:

what I would like to know is how the standard V6 toyota motors perform, as I would like to go to a 4 door vehicle eventually

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:17 am

Hmmmmm............Thinking, perhaps a later model 4 door body onto my chassis my be easier :?:

thoughts anyone :?:

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:13 am

The dimensions of the bodys on the later modle surfs and yours are identicle, as are the chassis to an extent, so could be a possibility.

If you used both the later modle chassis and body and did a SAS, you would have coils all round.

You use the Front diff and radious arms from a Prado, they are set up correctly, no swapping over of diff heads etc.

The guy i know who did this imported all the the steering links from OZ aftermarket. End result was a surf on coils 100mm+ higher than standard

Looked very impressive and performed to match!!!

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:47 pm

The problem with the Prado links is the big bend in them... I guess Mr Toyota was thinking they would act as protection for everything else, but even when straightened a bit they are way kinky

and stick down reducing trail clearance considerably.

Range Rover arms are straighter (Hell, I think rear Pajero arms are too) and would work just as well - and are cheaper to buy by far.

If you flip them like Mike did then you get nothing under the axle at all - perfect

Steve

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:03 pm

And the Range Rover ones have that mushroom type bush at the chassis end as well don't they??
The ones that allow the radious arms to twist freely.
Or is that only in the rear??

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:10 pm

Yeah, they have a pin, with two facing "mushroom" type bushes.

I've also head they can flex quite a bit better if the big nylock nut on the end of the pin is undone a turn or two before going offroad - although I don't know if anyone has tried that on here...

Steve

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:16 pm

thats totally correct db (front and rear works the same)

im a toyota man but the rangies have shit hot suspension systems and work really well under toyotas

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:53 pm

Thanks guy's but i'm more interested in the motor :!:

I'm definately wanting 4 coils on my next beastie but want a four door, I like petrol power, so am interested in one of these as a solid axle conversion (to coils) but want to know what they go like as they are a whole lot cheaper than the 3L TD,
The Thinking is not to have to do an engine swap :!:

penetrator · Post by **penetrator** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:45 pm

Hey i have a four door surf with the 3.0l V6 motor in it. I dont do a lot of hard out four wheel driving just a few muddy tracks and bouldery river bed driving for hunting. On road there seems to be plenty of power with acceleration like a half decent car i guess!! It also seems to have reasonable low gear power for the decent up and downhill things i have attempted.
I read somewhere that the petrol motors are 105kw compared to the 3.Ol diesel which is 85 or 86kw i think but sure i will be corrected :oops:

But torque is lower than the diesel. The guys i have spoken to have said there will be bugger all loss of power with 33's on it and could do 35's if i wanted to no worries - dont know if thats hard fact or someones exageration!!
It is thirsty though a full tank will do me 400 - 430km :twisted:

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:57 pm

how many litres to fill your tank :?:

penetrator · Post by **penetrator** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:52 pm

I think its about 55L - its been so long since ive done it being a uni student and the current prices!!

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:12 am

This is probably the cheapest option

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 946947.htm