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1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:00 pm
by Weemsy
im after the correct preload setting for the front and rear diffs in a 92 escudo.
they are 5.12.
i wish i hadnt pulled them apart cuz they were all fine inside, but if i hadnt they would have spat bits out no doubt.
cant seem to get a specific setting off anyone.
cheers
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:02 pm
by spanky
on all of mine i have just guessed and they have never failed cause of what i did,i put them together with a fraction of play and held my tongue right, so i am pretty much useless to you, need to look at a hayes or gregorys type manual,
vaughan
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:20 pm
by Weemsy
yeah, normally the tongue out method works for me but i thought i would ask as these didnt seem to have play in them, thats why i asked about preload.
haynes and whatever the other manual is that i have doesnt say about stripping axles, just removing them and giving them to someone who knows what they are doing
suzuki main agent 'cant find the details on his computer' and couldnt be arsed to look in the books or on the microfishe.

Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:26 pm
by Heath
Try outerlimits suzuki section
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/forum7.p ... 20b944de19Look in the bible stuff first or you will get flamed (they seem to like doing that) rather than just tell you where to look.
Had a quick look in the vitara bible and couldnt find anything. I'll post for you if you like.
Heath
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:19 am
by Weemsy
cheers heath,
i would appreciate that if you dont mind.
weemsy
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:41 am
by lneil
Hi Weemsy, I'll duck across to the workshop later today and go through the factory service manuals, see what I can find.
Cheers
Leigh
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:15 pm
by Weemsy
cheers lads.
i can get the good diffs in then!
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:53 pm
by Heath
From outers
9-17 kg/cm
Dont know if it is right (or even what it means but you will I guess), but its a starting point.
Heath
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:34 pm
by UBZ
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:28 am
by lneil
Weemsy, sorry I had no joy today. I only had a couple of minutes over there and couldn't find anything straight away.
If you're still looking next week I'll have another crack and see if I can get some assistance from the senior technicians, who are always happy to help me 'cause they know how useless I am!
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:08 pm
by Weemsy
cheers leigh,
dont go out of your way cuz it wont be going in for a few weeks yet anyway, so i will build it up when i get the settings.
ive tried that website UBZ sent me, but i cant get the haynes websites to work or find the setting anywhere else?
the torque settings for the 4 bolts i found (i think thats what you gave me HEATH) but no preload settings......
i will build it up how i would normally do but i dont know whether it is supposed to be preloaded or have a bit of float in the bearing (according to an american guy on another forum)???
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:42 pm
by Heath
is that loose thingeemabob called backlash?
Maybe I asked for the wrong info on Outers.
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:46 pm
by cool__bananas
do you mean how much slap sorta thing there is in between the crown and pinion? cause the correct setting for that (well what we set up our trials truck diffs at) is so you can just hear and feel a litle click when you twist the pinion, like shit all of a mm gap sorta thing
hope that helps

Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:38 pm
by Weemsy
hi cool bananas.
nah, the pinion backlash isnt the problem,
its the tension on the diff assembly bearings im after, the round plates with the holes in with the lock tab that loads the (spool?) bearings.
it might not be too important and they might just be set with the old 'tweak-it-up-and-back-off-quarter-turn' method??
i dont want the bearings whining so i thought i would find out what everyone else does??
i got told they are preloaded A LOT but it seemed a bit over the top so i thought i would ask the people who actually work on these things (you guys

) as the settings ive been given seems B.S.
cheers
weemsy
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:43 pm
by cool__bananas
i just tighten it untill it feels good, i havnt blown any bearings yet....

Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:11 am
by lneil
Hi Weemsy
I've just photocopied the whole diff' section of the Suzuki factory service manual (23 pages) so should be able to find just about any info you want.
Side gear thrust play: 0.005 - 0.014 in. (0.12 - 0.37 mm)
Pinion bearing preload: 9.0 - 17.0 kg-cm (7.8 - 14.7 lb-in)
Bevel gear backlash: 0.005 - 0.007 in (0.13 - 0.18 mm)
Tightening torque for diff' carrier bolts: 13.5 - 20 lb-ft (18 - 28 Nm)
Hope this helps. Any other info you need, give me a call.
Cheers
Leigh
Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:29 pm
by Weemsy
cheers leigh, thanks for that.
heath was spot on then

sorry heath, i should have listened to you!!!
i will crack on now.
cheers

Re: 1992 Escudo diff preload settings please??
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:39 pm
by Heath
Weemsy wrote:cheers leigh, thanks for that.
heath was spot on then

sorry heath, i should have listened to you!!!
i will crack on now.
cheers

I may have to use that as my signature. Problem is it wont always be correct.