Offroad-Express

hi i live in northland (1 hour north of whangerai) and was wondering how i can find out about some tracks or unformed roads that i can go and explore, it either seems noone want people to know about them or there isnt any around, hope someone can shed some light on this.

cheers
martin

ask Brentc on the forum he's a gps map guy

Paper roads are called paper roads because they exist on paper - the paper was the cadastral record maps held by the survey offices around the country. This information has been made digital in recent years and is now available through several different pieces of software (Tumonz, Terraview etc) as well as the official record, LandOnline.

Best to get hold of one of these pieces of software and look over it. Some come with a topomap underlay so you can see physically where the road alignment goes relative to features on the ground. A lot are supported by the GPS units on the market so you can navigate your way along these roads.

Not sure what the story is up north, but generally there are a large number of unformed roads around the place.

new2zukes wrote:hi i live in northland (1 hour north of whangerai) and was wondering how i can find out about some tracks or unformed roads that i can go and explore, it either seems noone want people to know about them or there isnt any around, hope someone can shed some light on this.

cheers
martin

Hook up with

Bay of Islands 4x4 Club
P O Box 443
Kerikeri.

President - Murray Squire - squire@igrin.co.nz

Secretary - Wendy Johnson - info@bayofislands4x4clubinc.co.nz

Local knowledge is best and just charging through Paper roads ain't the best look for 4wders now days

hi i am in the club atm im in the comitee but just wanted a little bit off offroading inbetween club runs and the pressident is no longer murray squire but thanks for the info. cheers

martin

Oh ok

Don't wait for a club trip - organise one

However - one way of finding unformed legal roads is to use Google earth and turn the roads on - then scout around

eg



You can see the main road and then a road off to the left following the stream - there is no visible track at that end - but it is probably a legal road - not that I am suggesting you create a track where there is none - it is just a pointer on where legal unformed roads may be

When you find one - you still need to research it to ensure that it a legal road before trying to use it.

Theres plenty of paper roads in and round the northland area. I used to work for a survey firm based in whangarei but we worked all over northland. I was dealing with them on a almost weekly bases. I never really got to play on many of them thou cause alot of the time our clients were the adjoining land owner who get to know you well and it wasnt really a good image for me to work defining their legal boundary during the week then rock up on sunday and rip the shit out of the land they didnt actually own as our firm got most of its jobs by word of mouth.

Its a bitch of a thing if you try play on most of them as the land owners hav put fences across the actually legal paper road boundaries and have a gate 50m down the fence line on their legal property. so your tesspassing going thou the gate but again you dont actaully wont to cut thier fences down cuz then you start playing with fire. also sometimes they a running just thou the middle of a paddock so your not sure where can legally b and not legally be in a wide open paddock.

Not all a like that thou. offen if there a differnet owners on either side you just drive down the boudry fence and your fine and many land owners know its a legal road so a fine with it. One way to fine the paper road is contact Lands and Survey - they a private whangarei survey firm who hijackd the name of the govt dept. and they hav a map shop you can look though their computer database and see which paper roads their are and then look on google earth and see what it looks like as many a either going in insane places or just boring. but there are a few that a good fun. Also look on the local council websites for their GIS link which show all legal boundaires overlayed on aeria photos and you can find paper roads that way aswell.


wow I wrote alot. Im studying surveyin down here in dunedin so ive spent many hours learning bot property boundaries and paper road. Theres heaps of them round but u hav to watch the adjoining land owners

I just tryed finding the gis link on the far north distrcit council website but they appear to want to get you to pay for it heres the link I could find http://www.fndc.govt.nz/misc/iaerialphoto.asp

Heres the link for the whangarei district council one http://www.wdc.govt.nz/customerservice/?lc=links&id=275&LTL=l1 if you search for example mcbeth in the 'street' search look at the end of it you can see where the road formation stops but the boudaries keep going thats a paper road. so its just a matter of panning round and seeing what you can find - that mcbeth ones a waste of time by the way I take used to take my subaru thou it as a short cut

hope this of help - most councils around the country have simplar systems which a great for finding paper roads

well thats heeps of help thanks for that gives me a lot better understanding of things.