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80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:05 pm
by skid
when I bought my 80 series, it had factory lockers front and rear, but the rear was not working.

I have decided to finally work out why it don't go , but am asking for everyones knowledge.

I have a manual (although loaned out at present), but I remember reading thru it and it never mentioned much about the electric lockers.

those of you who are familiar with them will know how they work.

my first question is.......

if I had my ear next to the motor on the rear diff and someone flicked the locker switch with the ignition on, should I be able to hear the motor engage and disengage, coz I've done this and never heard a thing.

what next :?:
do they have their own fuse somewhere :?:

what do I do now :?:

cheers

SKID

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:07 pm
by PR
skid wrote: what do I do now :?:

:wink:
Buy a Nissan

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:11 pm
by Jerry
no theres already too many nissans up here ..... us toyota owners might start pushing them off banks or something :lol:

Did you put diesel in it? oops I mean is all the wiring intact?

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:21 pm
by MNC
Hi Skid, I seam to remember reading a thread on here about this. Think the common problem was a faulty solenoid and that the best option was to get an after market replacement solenoid.

Sorry mate thats all I can recall - Hopefully you can find the thread or someone who's been though this issue picks up on your post.

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:29 pm
by adogg
could be many things!locker motors only get power to them momentarily(2 secs) to engage them,whether they engage or not!most probably the motors got water in it.ring me i`ll explain it easier than posting ere! and you wont get any bogus info that will lead you up the wrong path!!

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:43 pm
by red-devil
adogg wrote:could be many things!locker motors only get power to them momentarily(2 secs) to engage them,whether they engage or not!most probably the motors got water in it.ring me i`ll explain it easier than posting ere! and you wont get any bogus info that will lead you up the wrong path!!


like he say :lol:

i can hear both lockers when i engage them like how you said. :oops: not pickin on you BUT have you got your centre difflock on :roll:

my rear locker did the same, ended up having to replace the motor. i also found that if you use the lockers at less once a month, just so they keep moving as my front one was a little stuck with wot i would say was think/muddie oil. cleaned it out when i has replacing the front diff, all working well now.

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:47 pm
by skid
ok, it seems i may have been hasty in my attempts to listen for motor noise

will wait for a time when the rain has stopped over the next week and make sure all the bells and whistles are on before checking for motor noise

cheers

SKID

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:11 am
by mudzilla
I have had mine get water and shit in the locker motors and they jam and burn out, Once in the front now one in the back.!!! I bought a second hand front but cant find a rear one. Not cheep eather . I've now bought ARB's for the Hilux and will have a couple spares for the 80. I know this dosnt help fix yours, but ive looked at replacing the electric mtrs with maybe an air ram to fit the pin that goes into the diff head ????.
Wayne

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:07 pm
by Sadam_Husain
skid wrote:I have a manual (although loaned out at present), but I remember reading thru it and it never mentioned much about the electric lockers.



I've got a Factory Toyota manual here that covers elockers if Phil now owns your manual :? :lol:

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:20 pm
by skid
Sadam_Husain wrote:
skid wrote:I have a manual (although loaned out at present), but I remember reading thru it and it never mentioned much about the electric lockers.



I've got a Factory Toyota manual here that covers elockers if Phil now owns your manual :? :lol:



drop it into me

Ta

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:25 pm
by Sadam_Husain
skid wrote:drop it into me

Ta


I've got a meeting in town at 9.30am then I've got some shit to drop off at Sig's place so I'll drop by on the way through, Your just before the bridge heading over the Hutt River arent you? Will probably be around 10-11am ish :mrgreen:

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:08 pm
by skid
Sadam_Husain wrote:
skid wrote:drop it into me

Ta


I've got a meeting in town at 9.30am then I've got some shit to drop off at Sig's place so I'll drop by on the way through, Your just before the bridge heading over the Hutt River arent you? Will probably be around 10-11am ish :mrgreen:



yup, ta

does it have wiring diagrams for the 80 lockers or is it just a generic toyota locker thing

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:23 pm
by Sadam_Husain
skid wrote:yup, ta

does it have wiring diagrams for the 80 lockers or is it just a generic toyota locker thing


Its the Toyota RM183E maunal, all 70 series stuff, RJZ7x, PZJ7x, LJ7x, HZJ7x, FJ7x and Jerrys Cruiser Jnr
Theres a shitload of wireing stuff and diagrams, you might have to take a look to see if it relates much to the 80 series wireing?

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:37 pm
by skid
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Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:49 pm
by sarmajor
SO you have trouble with the factory E locker.

Check www.1h8mud.com for threads about the operation of the E lockers.

You have to have the center diff locked and cnfirmation indication on the dash.
Only then will power go to the E locker motors.

Don't be fooled by the flashing lights on the dash telling you that they have not engaged as the indicator switches are known for getting dirty and not operating.
I find the easiest way is to put the T case in low as this will lock the center diff. Get the indicator on the dash up.

Leave the transmission in Neutral Jack up the rear wheels and then rotate one of them. As soon as the locker locks you will not be able to rotate the wheel any more as the rea axle will be locked and the front wheels are on the ground. Don't forget to chock the front wheels.

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:36 am
by Nizsafari
Did you manage to sort out the locker prob Skid???

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:35 am
by skid
Nizsafari wrote:Did you manage to sort out the locker prob Skid???



nup, haven't really found the time to venture outside into cold and rain, but weather is improving as we near summer.

got Sadams manual sitting on the bench and have had a little look at it but never really sat down and thoroughly gone through the locker section of it.




Red Devil, when you say you can hear your motors engaging, is that whilst in ya truck or are you under it close to the motors :?: :?:



its annoying really, coz if it was the front one broken, then I wouldn't even care, but the rear one is the one you want to use and it don't go, dammit.

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:07 am
by badnuz
can you swap the front to back ?? ( motors etc) does this mean your going to come on some trips soon Skiddy? :D

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:11 pm
by skid
badnuz wrote:can you swap the front to back ?? ( motors etc) does this mean your going to come on some trips soon Skiddy? :D



been on one with you

that was enough

someone interrupted my sleep to help fix somebodys tyre

oh well at least us toyota drivers help each other out,

not like that nissan driver who slept thru the whole thing :roll: :roll: :mrgreen:

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:25 pm
by red-devil
i was standing in the door. flick the switch and i can hear the rear motor spin over the a small clik which i think is the lock ring hitting the end of it travel. the front is the same.

i have the manual the 70 and 80 cruisers and if you read up on it its easy to put in out.

pg 202 shows the lay out. there is a cover on the actuator which has two bolts holding it in place, if you remove this you will see the actuator shaft. if you lock the rear this shaft should slide in. if it dosent move try by hand, it should slide with a little force, you may have to jackrear end up so you can spin wheels by hand just incase the lock needs to turn to engage.

jono
0274538385

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:48 pm
by Pedro
skid wrote:
Nizsafari wrote:Did you manage to sort out the locker prob Skid???



nup, haven't really found the time to venture outside into cold and rain, but weather is improving as we near summer.

got Sadams manual sitting on the bench and have had a little look at it but never really sat down and thoroughly gone through the locker section of it.




Red Devil, when you say you can hear your motors engaging, is that whilst in ya truck or are you under it close to the motors :?: :?:



its annoying really, coz if it was the front one broken, then I wouldn't even care, but the rear one is the one you want to use and it don't go, dammit.



hey skid

sorted out garry's locker this after noon, took a while to nut out the circuit but is relativley simple, bring it out one day or the next bourban evening we can have a look, assuming the sun is out and the drink is in hand :D and of course my bloody trials truck is finished!!

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:35 pm
by skid
Pedro wrote:hey skid

sorted out garry's locker this after noon, took a while to nut out the circuit but is relativley simple, bring it out one day or the next bourban evening we can have a look, assuming the sun is out and the drink is in hand :D and of course my bloody trials truck is finished!!



it can wait till you have finished ya trolley and made it to the first trial

then ya can't blame me for any time lost :roll: :roll: oh hang on your name starts with P not W :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:24 pm
by skid
skid wrote:
Pedro wrote:hey skid

sorted out garry's locker this after noon, took a while to nut out the circuit but is relativley simple, bring it out one day or the next bourban evening we can have a look, assuming the sun is out and the drink is in hand :D and of course my bloody trials truck is finished!!



it can wait till you have finished ya trolley and made it to the first trial

then ya can't blame me for any time lost :roll: :roll: oh hang on your name starts with P not W :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


UPDATE TIME


its been 7 months and Pedro has finished the trolley, thrashed the trolley, rolled the trolley, broke the trolley and even found a new navi for the trolley.



in the meantime, Skid has actually been out in the 80 bus and been using it off road. :shock: :shock:

faaaark it climbs awesome and it climbs even better with the front locker engaged. 8) 8)

imagine how good it would climb if the rear locker was going as well. :evil: :evil:

so its time to pull my finger out and get back to where this thread was 7 months ago and see if I can get the damned thing going. :P

You know ya gonna get that call Pedro, coz you were silly enough to offer :lol: :lol:

I will let you fix the rally truck that we trashed first though. :roll: :roll:


this is gonna only cause me grief, I can see it now.

more traction will get me in more places and then it will be harder to get back.

shite, I better start saving for all the mods now :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:45 pm
by Pedro
skid wrote:
skid wrote:
Pedro wrote:hey skid

sorted out garry's locker this after noon, took a while to nut out the circuit but is relativley simple, bring it out one day or the next bourban evening we can have a look, assuming the sun is out and the drink is in hand :D and of course my bloody trials truck is finished!!



it can wait till you have finished ya trolley and made it to the first trial

You know ya gonna get that call Pedro, coz you were silly enough to offer :lol: :lol:


well you were in it when it broke, so took two to tango :lol: :lol:

as for knowin the circuit now, christ that was 7 months ago, i can barely remember the info on drug free coming thru the club........

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:01 pm
by skid
Pedro wrote:well you were in it when it broke, so took two to tango :lol: :lol:

as for knowin the circuit now, christ that was 7 months ago, i can barely remember the info on drug free coming thru the club........



you been smoking that stuff again

or doing a couple of lines

sheeeesh , bring on the SPARC and DRUG FREE shite :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:13 pm
by Jerry
and panelbeating too :oops:
Image

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:17 pm
by Pedro
Jerry wrote:and panelbeating too :oops:
Image



oh skid, you being rough again??

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:30 pm
by Heath
why is www.1h8mud.com now a gardening forum? Yanks given up 4 wheeling?

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:37 pm
by skid
Heath wrote:why is http://www.1h8mud.com now a gardening forum? Yanks given up 4 wheeling?



hahahahahahahaha

try spelling it properly.............

http://www.ih8mud.com/

Re: 80 series factory rear locker issues

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:01 pm
by coxsy