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Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:35 pm
by basics
ok, what the heck did they think was gona happen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcHrkhHXoHo
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:40 pm
by Red90
good ol USA strikes again

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:55 pm
by DaveM
Thats truly gold

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:56 pm
by mudlva
god bless america if they had a brain cell each they would still be lonely. dumb assess

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:08 pm
by madaz068
maybe its a Jeep thing

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:12 pm
by safaripete
bah hahahahahaha
that had me in tears with laughter
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:17 pm
by coxsy
was going to hard work shifting it whole thing out of that mud

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:21 pm
by Heath
WTF were they thinking? Are they dumasses or what? Who would let someone recover their vehicle like that? What were they trying to acheive anyway? Didnt they think pulling from the front or rear would be better, then the round rolly things might have helped? Instead they were going to miracle it sideways - They can stay the feck away from me when I am in trouble.
I have seen some dumb shit but that is the dumbest in a long time. Didnt one of the huge group think it might not be a good idea?
Unfecking believable. Owner deserves to walk home after letting another dumbass do that.
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:22 pm
by basics
she was in pretty deep huh, hahaha cracks me up every time
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:28 pm
by safaripete
the recovering truck sounded nice tho
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:31 pm
by basics
safaripete wrote:the recovering truck sounded nice tho
x 2

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:50 pm
by cornfarmer
Wow!!!!! I wonder what he told his mrs.
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:20 pm
by gary_in_nz
Heath wrote:WTF were they thinking? Are they dumasses or what? Who would let someone recover their vehicle like that? What were they trying to acheive anyway? Didnt they think pulling from the front or rear would be better, then the round rolly things might have helped? Instead they were going to miracle it sideways - They can stay the feck away from me when I am in trouble.
I have seen some dumb shit but that is the dumbest in a long time. Didnt one of the huge group think it might not be a good idea?
Unfecking believable. Owner deserves to walk home after letting another dumbass do that.
What he said ^^
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:06 pm
by DieselBoy
Considering the front and rear bumpers are under the goo, i reckon that might have been a good way to break the suction.
Have any of you ever been suck over the flloor pans in a soft gooey ooze??
The suction is phenominal, and you have to yank and rock the vehicle to break the suction until you can even consider extracting it.
One can only hope that they were hoping to break the suction and keep the recovery vehicle on the hard ground, not rip the bloody thing in half

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:19 pm
by Big-AL
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:01 am
by sig
i know where you are coming from diesel boy ,been in that situation ,and it was the middle of the night .there problem was the rollcage wasn,t chassis mounted .unless they realy did want a kitset jeep

Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:28 am
by PR
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:47 pm
by cornfarmer
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:25 pm
by new2zukes
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fkH8mzJ9voA&NR=1 i thought this was on topic so how the hell did he get there?
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:21 pm
by curious_george
sig wrote:i know where you are coming from diesel boy ,been in that situation ,and it was the middle of the night .there problem was the rollcage wasn,t chassis mounted .unless they realy did want a kitset jeep

Yeah I have to agree about the roll-cage connection to the chassis - might have been a good idea to have checked that first before pulling!
In their defense though, I've done two recoveries that required pulling the vehicle to it's side. Admittedly, one was of a quad sunk to it's seat in mud that we rolled to either side in order to get flax etc under the wheels and lift it up and out out (the other quad couldn't get enough traction in the swamp to do either a forward of rearward recovery before you ask).
The other job however involved a 15,000kg vehicle that was dragged sideways up and out of it's predicament by another wagon from just 150m away. Unfortunately there was no other way (despite a couple of attempts at a few other plans). I'll post a picture or two as soon as I find it. Suffice to say that there was no going forward or backwards from this position and the only thing really preventing the vehicle from making it's way tumbling to the bottom of the hill when we first turned up was a concrete culvert that was jammed under the second and third diff.
(Pictures to come, honest!)
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:03 pm
by MNC
I would bother with the other two but that second one has got to be in the running for an OSCAR!!!
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:24 pm
by curious_george
As Promised. Unfortunately I have no pictures of the task being conducted, nor is it video even though we're in the video post (hopefully pure interest will out-weigh that one) - but as both camera man and operator of the recovery vehicle, there usually isn't time to do both!
The wagon when we arrived at the task site. The other two vehicles with their winch ropes attached are more for piece of mind for the tankies - they set it up to "hold" the casualty. In reality, I think, due to the angles of the anchor vehicles, it would have either broken the ropes, or dragged the other wagons down the hill had the casualty rolled. Luckily there wasn't too much chance of that once it had come to rest.


As mentioned before, there is a concrete culvert under the wagon that it's resting on. It can't quite be seen, but you get the idea from this shot.




The following two were taken a few days later to show the location without the wagon in the way.
Looking down the hill towards where the casualty vehicle was, and beyond.

Looking up towards where the recovery vehicle was parked - well over the crest of the hill and out of sight of the task.

Using my wagon, we pulled from the top of the hill to the left of the casualty (quite a task to get to in itself!), intending to hold the casualty while it was winched rearward. Unfortunately, that didn't quite work as planned. Plan E or F by this stage hadn't worked, so we just gave it a thoroughly good pull and, lo and behold, she crept up the hill a little, just before maxing out the winch. The beauty about the Rotzler TR200 however, is that although it's rated line pull is 200kN, on initial winch in it pulls about 250kN before the cut-outs activate. So our casualty was crept, one small pull after another, slowly back to hard standing and the tankies drove it away.
As you can see - sometimes sideways is the only option!
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:30 pm
by gary_in_nz
nice good stuff, i see you have fun with the big boys toys!! how long does it take to train up to drive one of those machines??
got any vids of them in some off road action??
cheers
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:52 pm
by curious_george
gary_in_nz wrote:nice good stuff, i see you have fun with the big boys toys!! how long does it take to train up to drive one of those machines??
got any vids of them in some off road action??
cheers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PSMp4wgamEThis is the best I have unfortunately - you'll have to forgive the particular show it comes from! I work with the soldiers in the video - we have two types of people in the army - those who fix things, and those that f... them - these jokers aren't fixers
To become a driver is a five week course, covering basic maintenance, operation of the vehicle systems, off road and on road driving. Each driver does a minimum of 300km off road, and 200km on road before being assessed as competent.
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:20 pm
by Heath
So where is the pic of the recovery wagon? Seen it in action (okay vids and pics) and the metal heads (guys who have an appreciation of steel and hydraulics) will love it.
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:52 pm
by gazza
Just seen this one hope its not a repost this man was damn lucky
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=-xNZwwUwK ... re=related
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:36 pm
by DaveM
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:15 pm
by aroma
re the recovery vechile for the army have seen them up close at work and they were impressive when you looked a bit harder think it was bout 40 years old but the winches were big the driver rattled off some spec's I cant rember what they were but they wire looked 20mm dia and they had bloody big chocks for when they got serious and doubling or trippling the pull!!!!!!!!
Re: Yet Another Brilliant Recovery Gone Tragically Wrong
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:25 pm
by curious_george
I'm guessing that was probably the old 816. A very impressive vehicle to work with, despite the fact one needed to dig out 3 cubic meters of earth in order to anchor the vehicle!
Search for 'M1089' in google and hit "I'm feeling lucky". It'll take you right to a page showing the current in-service medium recovery vehicle that we've had since 1996 which replaced the 816. All the technical data can be found there - suffice to say it's an awesome recovery truck.