maxxis vs bf goodrich

[dawwen]

I require 35x12.5/13.5r15 tyres for my 70 series.
I'm not completly sold on the Maxxis creepy crawler as there intended design is more directed towards the rock crawling scene and i'm more of a mud and bush man, i've also lost a bit of faith in the mudzilla as comments i've heard indicate they are a softer compound there for dont wear so well and even though i wont be doing many road miles on them they well see a bit of road action.
i'm wondering is M8060 Trepador a good compramise. what are peoples experiences with these tyres if any??
Or maybe the BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain T/A????
I originally was looking for Goodyear MTRs but they seem to be in shortish supply within NZ as far as im aware.

I know these questions come up so often but with the price of decient rubber i want to be convinced im parting company with my coin for the right tread pattern.

Cheers
Darren

[swampa]

i have a set of bfg mtr's in 35's and everytime i use them i think, i wish i had my simex's on, so i have brought a set of creepy crawlers in 37's and i know they will outperform any mt tyre on my vehicle in any condition, if i was to have only 1 set of tyres it would be the creepy(from my experience the creepies work best if you have pleanty of power

[gimmemud]

Yeah what about simexes are they an option for you? The triple block pattern are better for the road cause you can pump them up nice and hard and leave all the good chewy bits on side in good condition for the mud.
I love my maxxis mudzilla's they work well for me but i'm usually trailering my tyres everywhere cause there's usually a suzuki attached to my tow bar

[Heath]

just to throw a fly in the ointment how about swampers (TSL, or whatever) from the interco line? Another thread on here about them recently

[PR]

I have Creepys and I am sorry but they are not rock crawling tyres as the side walls are too strong and they do not form over the rocks even running 8psi in a 2.5ton Safari. They are as bumpy as shit in rocks and you will feel every bump as for mud I had simexs before the creepys and for me they peform just as good as the simex 35x10.5/15 (2 block)maybe cause they are wider and more suited for the whale but then again you could always go the 3 block simex.

My 2c

[dawwen]

I thought about tsl/interco's but they seem expensive for what they are unless an importer starts bringing them in to make prices for realistic like the other thread states.

[tallsam66]

Ok....just to confuse you further ive heard goodthings about Cooper STT & if you rotate them regularily & get wheel alignments done they garrentee them for 80,000 Km.

http://www.coopertire.co.nz/pages/offroad_tyres.html

[Shane]

mtr,bfg,cooper stt,and some of the Trepador models are radial MT tyres,they well have good wear on road,low noise and work pretty good off road.

creepys,simex,some trepador,tsl,boggers are closs/ply style,reverse to the MT's in that they have great off road performance but average wear rates and on road manners are average to very poor.

imo the creepys are the best bang for your buck x/ply,more suited to heavyer vehicle's,need to air them down to single numbers(psi) for best results off road,which means you need a good compresser to pump'm back up.very strong in the side wall(I havent seen one tear the side wall out)dont bag that well due to strong side wall,flip side being diff clearance not reduced much when air'd down.

Trepador x/ply being used alot in Oz,I'd like to try them,maybe later this year

Shane

[PigFmr]

i ran creepys for a 18mths bloody great will have another set one day just to leave in the garage for the harder trips.
used to run mine down to 5psi for off road,not the best tyre for on road use and a hard ride which i used to put up because offroad they were great and thats what they were made for ,
now i run 35's maxxis trepadors and had them on for 6mths now find they have nice road manners and good offroad and wearing good,i think they are a good all round tyre, but i will have some creepys again
vince

[furnace]

Yeah what about simexes are they an option for you? The triple block pattern are better for the road cause you can pump them up nice and hard and leave all the good chewy bits on side in good condition for the mud.
I love my maxxis mudzilla's they work well for me but i'm usually trailering my tyres everywhere cause there's usually a suzuki attached to my tow bar

It hink it depends on what you are wanting them for,Simex's etc are great off road [hard core ],i've used both The Simex and the Swampers,i liked the Simex's the best of the 2,not very good on road.I'm only guessing but if you are wanting something for a bit of everything i would go for the Maxxis Bighorn,they work very well off road [ best mud tyre iv'e had so far ] and wear very well

[dawwen]

i'm looking for off road preformance upmost. the only road miles they'll do is from home (upper hutt) to the akas etc. local area only. my concern was that with the softer compounds of the likes of the muddzillas are they going to wear ultra fast in comparision to any other tyre since alot of the tracks involve distances on gravel tracks etc. Does the creepies being a hard side wall not compramise preformance. i would of thought softer side wall improved traction as they mould around terrain.

Cheers for all the input

[Jerry]

have a chat to Rob at naenae tyres, he might be able to recommend something (as well as a good price)

[rokhound]

There is a lot to be said for your local type of terrain as well. Some brands of tyres that are used in certain parts of the country will be total rubbish in another part.
The trick is to talk to other owners and look at their rigs that are traveling around in your area and on the terrain that you are going to be traversing the most often, and see which ones perform the best for your needs.

[Bulletproof]

There is a lot to be said for your local type of terrain as well. Some brands of tyres that are used in certain parts of the country will be total rubbish in another part.
The trick is to talk to other owners and look at their rigs that are traveling around in your area and on the terrain that you are going to be traversing the most often, and see which ones perform the best for your needs.

x2

I have just got back from 5 day's of 4 wheeling on the West Coast in the Reefton ,Grey, Ahaura area

We had 5 trucks all running 35s. 3 were on Creepy's, Andi was on Simex ETs and I was on BFGs 12.5s

After the 5 day's the Simex's and the BFGs won hands down over the Creepy's

Make your own mind.
The Prado and Grey hilux had Creepy's. Andi had Simex and I had BFGs



This time the Prado and Nissan had Creepy's and I had the BFGs. Andi's handbag also got through on the Simex's



At no time over the 5 days did the creepys do better

Cheers Richard

[Shane]

There is a lot to be said for your local type of terrain as well. Some brands of tyres that are used in certain parts of the country will be total rubbish in another part.
The trick is to talk to other owners and look at their rigs that are traveling around in your area and on the terrain that you are going to be traversing the most often, and see which ones perform the best for your needs.

x2

I have just got back from 5 day's of 4 wheeling on the West Coast in the Reefton ,Grey, Ahaura area

We had 5 trucks all running 35s. 3 were on Creepy's, Andi was on Simex ETs and I was on BFGs 12.5s

After the 5 day's the Simex's and the BFGs won hands down over the Creepy's

Make your own mind.
The Prado and Grey hilux had Creepy's. Andi had Simex and I had BFGs



This time the Prado and Nissan had Creepy's and I had the BFGs. Andi's handbag also got through on the Simex's



At no time over the 5 days did the creepys do better

Cheers Richard

That's a pretty tuff comparison given that both the Hand bag and your lux are well modified vehicles,if you get the chance you should try a set on the lux.

In the first vid looks like the prado is stuck on the diff's not the tyres fault.

broad band run out so haven't tried to watch second vid,looks like JR's vehicle which is pretty std compared to yours

Shane

[Bulletproof]

Hi Shane ,
All the trucks on the trip had the same size diffs and 35s. The creepy's are not a true 35,only about 34 where the BFGs and Simex's are alot nearer to 35.
I have driven with many different trucks on creepy's and have only been out driven once. That was Xmas 04 when Tim Evans had just bought a set of 35s and on the way into the blackburn got through a bog that I got stuck in . I had 33s so the only reason Tim got through was because of the hieght advantage . The rest of that xmas trip he didn't do any better.

I have seen many people running creepy's between 5-10 lbs and they are still as stiff as ever and don't balloon at all .

Most times I don't even check my tyre pressures. I just take the valve out and when the truck drops 25mm +or - thats near enough. Creepys just don't do that.

Cheers Richard

[skid]

I'm with Jerry

go see Rob at Naenae tyres and get his opinion, hes been wheeling in the akas for years and knows what works in there.

he is also very ver reasonable with the price


he will be open again next week

[haynzy]

I'm with Jerry

you poor bastard

[wgtnnewbie]

I'm with Jerry

you poor bastard

X2

[turoa]

I run creepys on my hilux and they work great. the trick with the creepies is you have to run them with next to no pressure in them. I run them with 0psi in the back of my lux and bugger all in the front and they work awesome. For wellington conditions simexs are rubbish IMO.

Sadam has just gone from simexes to creepys so he may have a good idea of which is better

[swampa]

i have also gone from simex to greepies on my lux, also running hardly any pressure, pull the valves out and put them back in once the air coming out has slowed right down, works good for me

[Mud Hog]

Do you think this is because of the actural size of the tyre or the tread pattern, compound and side wall design?