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Howdy
Went to start the wagon(GQ LWB)on Sunday only to find that it was struggling to turn over. Took it for a run and all seemed fine in the afternoon. However yesterday morning the batteries were flat( passenger side reading 3.8v and drivers 8.9v) but with a tow start everything ran ok and had both batteries up to 12.8v by the time i got to work.

Rang Skid to replace the passengers side battery because I don't think it will be a happy chappy after being drained that low. When replacing the battery lead there was some rather large arcing happening.

So my question is, before I start the horrible job of tracing the problem, do you guys know if this is a commen fault and where it comes from??? I heard a relay clicking this morning when hooking up the batteries.

If not then I guess I will be busy saturday tracing the problem

something is drain that battery have you got radios or prs hooked to it , the memory circuits suck power big time, my sony radio cd and prs did it to my battery too

Nope, no radio or anything else hooked up to the batteries, totally factory standard

These might make it easier to find the circuit at fault

http://www.jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=WT5340&keywords=fuse+multi&form=KEYWORD

Multimeter probes that fit straight into a blade fuse socket. Remove all your fuses and go through your fuse block one by one looking for any circuits that give a reading with your multimeter set to measure current.

With 2 battery systems it is always good practise to replace both batteries as the new one can be quickly damaged by the used one. At the mo I have 1 ns70 starting battery and 1 deep cycle battery connected in paralel and if withy th engine at idle it takes 30secs with no load on the winch to drain both batteries below 10 volts at which time the engine stalls due to low voltage to the ecu. When bench tested the starting battery is poked and the other is fine. Conclusion 2 batteries same age same rating= more money to spend

haynzy wrote:With 2 battery systems it is always good practise to replace both batteries as the new one can be quickly damaged by the used one. At the mo I have 1 ns70 starting battery and 1 deep cycle battery connected in paralel and if withy th engine at idle it takes 30secs with no load on the winch to drain both batteries below 10 volts at which time the engine stalls due to low voltage to the ecu. When bench tested the starting battery is poked and the other is fine. Conclusion 2 batteries same age same rating= more money to spend

Yep, both batteries have been replaced in the last two weeks. What is a worry is the amount of current being drawn off them when the ingition is off

curly12 wrote:

haynzy wrote:With 2 battery systems it is always good practise to replace both batteries as the new one can be quickly damaged by the used one. At the mo I have 1 ns70 starting battery and 1 deep cycle battery connected in paralel and if withy th engine at idle it takes 30secs with no load on the winch to drain both batteries below 10 volts at which time the engine stalls due to low voltage to the ecu. When bench tested the starting battery is poked and the other is fine. Conclusion 2 batteries same age same rating= more money to spend

Yep, both batteries have been replaced in the last two weeks. What is a worry is the amount of current being drawn off them when the ingition is off

Sweet I got given bad advise about my batteries and now have to buy 2 more batteries as a result, Two optima 1000cca red tops seems to be the solution though

I have a similar issue. my radio will flatten the battery in about 2 weeks. this is because a low current draw to keep the preset stations.
What you need to do is as I did go to a auto electrician. They can put a meter between the batterys and tell you the current drawn. then you can start pulling fuses to try to work out the load with the key off.

the sparking when you connect up the batterys is a seperate issue. I have to disconnect the glow plug relay control as the turbo timer installation seems to have mucked this up. Clear??

Henry wrote:What you need to do is as I did go to a auto electrician. They can put a meter between the batterys and tell you the current drawn. then you can start pulling fuses to try to work out the load with the key off.

No he doesn't. You can do it yourself at home with an el cheapo multimeter. Replace the fuses one by one with the multimeter probes. This will allow you to find the rogue power hungry circuit.

Henry wrote:I have a similar issue. my radio will flatten the battery in about 2 weeks. this is because a low current draw to keep the preset stations.
What you need to do is as I did go to a auto electrician. They can put a meter between the batterys and tell you the current drawn. then you can start pulling fuses to try to work out the load with the key off.

the sparking when you connect up the batterys is a seperate issue. I have to disconnect the glow plug relay control as the turbo timer installation seems to have mucked this up. Clear??

Mmmmmmmmmmm no radio and no turbo thou. Will hunt down the clicking relay tonight

just another thought, your trucks 24 volt being a nissan, check out the 12 transformer thingy in the left passengers kick pannel, may have taken on some water or might be dusty etc, i know mine went hay wire when my windscreen use to leak as it all ran down the front left a pillar into the box damn it. i have installed a charge equalliser and for how much they are seems to be doing the job well. i run a compressor and my sounds (love my music) all from the 12 volt battery.

maybe its those redneck horns ya installed in there


tell everyone that poor skid was getting shocked off ya truck too as that advice may help

it all sounds like an earthing problem to me

BUT WHERE

start tracing dude

and did it start this morning etc etc etc

haynzy wrote: Two optima 1000cca red tops seems to be the solution though

faaaaark dude, you win lotto

Yeah looked at all the supercharge batteries but without buying the biggest battery they make i just wont get the cca i need so optimas it is

haynzy wrote: Two optima 1000cca red tops seems to be the solution though

faaaaark dude, you win lotto[/quote]

Well bit of progress last night.....................

Removed the trailer plug and associated wiring that had melted it's self to the exhaust.....................

curly12 wrote:Well bit of progress last night.....................

Removed the trailer plug and associated wiring that had melted it's self to the exhaust.....................

so you still disconnecting the left one at nite

skid wrote:
so you still disconnecting the left one at nite

Nope, leaving my nuts firmly attached thanks skid

curly12 wrote:

skid wrote:
so you still disconnecting the left one at nite

Nope, leaving my nuts firmly attached thanks skid

thats good

so that means ya get fired up all the time then

curly12 wrote:Well bit of progress last night.....................

Removed the trailer plug and associated wiring that had melted it's self to the exhaust.....................

Well Well Well who told you you'd have a damaged piece of wireing loom shorting out somewhere.... I think I even told you to check the trailor plug on the exhaust

Sadam_Husain wrote:Well Well Well who told you you'd have a damaged piece of wireing loom shorting out somewhere.... I think I even told you to check the trailor plug on the exhaust

GFY

And on that note, leave the thinking to a horse becausee it has a bigger head and more time than you

curly12 wrote:

Sadam_Husain wrote:Well Well Well who told you you'd have a damaged piece of wireing loom shorting out somewhere.... I think I even told you to check the trailor plug on the exhaust

GFY

bit touchy today are we

hope you havent faaarked your new batteries

that you havent paid for yet

skid wrote:hope you havent faaarked your new batteries

that you havent paid for yet

I am sure that they are farked and need to be returned

does GFY mean you've got a couple of boxes of TUI sitting in the factory for me to pick up for fixing your truck?

Sadam_Husain wrote:does GFY mean you've got a couple of boxes of TUI sitting in the factory for me to pick up for fixing your truck?

I would not lower myself to having that vial poison anywhere near my factory, let alone been seen buying it. All is is good for is using as weedkiller for obnoxious people such as yourself

curly12 wrote:

Sadam_Husain wrote:does GFY mean you've got a couple of boxes of TUI sitting in the factory for me to pick up for fixing your truck?

I would not lower myself to having that vial poison anywhere near my factory, let alone been seen buying it. All is is good for is using as weedkiller for obnoxious people such as yourself

how do you apply the weedkiller

coz hes been taking it internally for a numbers of years now and hes still kicking

does it need to be taken rectally or something

skid wrote:does it need to be taken rectally or something

Feel free Skid to stick it where ever you want............

skid wrote:
how do you apply the weedkiller

coz hes been taking it internally for a numbers of years now and hes still kicking

does it need to be taken rectally or something

Weed Killer attacks the central nervous system or the "brains" of the vegetation and breaks down the cells

In your case, I would say this "Tui" branded weed killer has been relatively effective at killing off your "brain cells".

Very poignant considering some of the brain dead comments you have posted in this forum last week.

Bubba wrote:

skid wrote:
how do you apply the weedkiller

coz hes been taking it internally for a numbers of years now and hes still kicking

does it need to be taken rectally or something

Weed Killer attacks the central nervous system or the "brains" of the vegetation and breaks down the cells

In your case, I would say this "Tui" branded weed killer has been relatively effective at killing off your "brain cells".

Very poignant considering some of the brain dead comments you have posted in this forum last week.

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I've been waiting for more of your witty comments

but you keep hiding, bitch