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AXLES

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:38 pm
by bb402c
how many fromt axles have you broken ???


what have you done to prevent this???

Re: AXLES

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:03 pm
by skid
dont drive so hard noddy

get howie to make you new ones

years ago the fireman ran jeep running gear

always breaking axles, always the short one I think, the one that always breaks.

so howie made him a new one and the next rally we broke an axle, so we start taking the diff apart and wouldn't ya know it, howies was so strong that it broke the other one.

Re: AXLES

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:10 pm
by xj
How many: Three
Location: front left.
On what: Two on the Cherokee one on the TJ.
Solution: 1)wind out the limiting bolt on the steering knuckle to avoid a sharp turning angle and loading the CV
2) Avoid trying to turn in deep ruts.
3) Gas OFF when front wheels are in the air.

Reasons why not to beef up the axles or UJ's - Rather blow an axle and be able to change it in 45mins than load up the torque and strip out a R&P or spider gears.

Re: AXLES

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:07 pm
by fweddy
bb402c wrote:how many fromt axles have you broken ???

None

bb402c wrote:what have you done to prevent this???

Brought a LandCruiser

Re: AXLES

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:22 pm
by xj
fweddy wrote:
bb402c wrote:how many fromt axles have you broken ???

None

bb402c wrote:what have you done to prevent this???

Brought a LandCruiser


So you've never had a Jeep?

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:43 am
by fweddy
xj wrote:So you've never had a Jeep?

True! But I wouldn't be against owning one. I enjoy variety of vehicles for all their different quirks but do enjoy my cruiser.

I have snapped an axle in my morris minor ute while gently changing into 2nd gear in over run tho!

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:13 am
by kaney
broken - none
broken diffs - 3



what i did to stop it.... nothing just replaced as have got spares.

truck - hilux

but speaking of jeeps its just the tow wagon...

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:38 pm
by wopass
how many? =too many :oops:

how to fix? =longfields :twisted:

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:27 pm
by xj
See, now i dont want to appear to speaking on Shaynes behalf, but i would have thought that a question about breaking axles, in the "Jeep" section of the forum, would have been intended to run along the lines of addressing those who have broken axles in their Jeeps.... otherwise it ought to have been posted in a more general part of the forum.
Thing is that if folks were to ask about ... say... rear factory diff locks on a mitsi, in the mitsi forum, I wouldnt go into that forum and start bleating about ARB's in my Jeep... why? Because my input would have bugger all to do about Mitsis....

rant over.. Im having a prick of a day.... just thought i'd share

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:19 pm
by wopass
xj wrote:See, now i dont want to appear to speaking on Shaynes behalf, but i would have thought that a question about breaking axles, in the "Jeep" section of the forum, would have been intended to run along the lines of addressing those who have broken axles in their Jeeps.... otherwise it ought to have been posted in a more general part of the forum.
Thing is that if folks were to ask about ... say... rear factory diff locks on a mitsi, in the mitsi forum, I wouldnt go into that forum and start bleating about ARB's in my Jeep... why? Because my input would have bugger all to do about Mitsis....

rant over.. Im having a prick of a day.... just thought i'd share


diddnt see the Jeep bit there, just saw axles and break which i am kinda familiar with :lol:

but i still say get longfields :lol: build it to NOT break and you will have a much more reliable vehicle, where as if you build it to have a fuse then the fuse will just keep blowing and no one likes to go wheeling with a guy who likes to blow... :lol:

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:24 pm
by TJ
xj wrote:rant over.. Im having a prick of a day.... just thought i'd share


It was not a rant, I agree with you. I don't say things about Nissans/Yotas/etc because I don't own them (never have, never will). Now someone were to ask a generic question about things, I would comment if I had something helpful to add.

As for breaking axles on Jeeps, I have not done one yet but then I don't have lockers either.

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:27 pm
by xj
wopass wrote:diddnt see the Jeep bit there, just saw axles and break which i am kinda familiar with :lol:

but i still say get longfields :lol: build it to NOT break and you will have a much more reliable vehicle, where as if you build it to have a fuse then the fuse will just keep blowing and no one likes to go wheeling with a guy who likes to blow... :lol:


gotta Disagree wopwop.... how many diffs you done?

Recently had a chappie out with chromoly axles in the front, his axles stayed OWSUM'ly good, stripped his crownwheel instead.... id prefer to break an axle.... damn site cheaper.

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:38 pm
by wopass
xj wrote:
wopass wrote:diddnt see the Jeep bit there, just saw axles and break which i am kinda familiar with :lol:

but i still say get longfields :lol: build it to NOT break and you will have a much more reliable vehicle, where as if you build it to have a fuse then the fuse will just keep blowing and no one likes to go wheeling with a guy who likes to blow... :lol:


gotta Disagree wopwop.... how many diffs you done?

Recently had a chappie out with chromoly axles in the front, his axles stayed OWSUM'ly good, stripped his crownwheel instead.... id prefer to break an axle.... damn site cheaper.


edit: have smashed 2 pinions due to axle wrap and one rear carrier pin due to too much lash wind up and impact and one front engage dog gear due to front carrier pin keep bolt comming out and the front carrier pin sliding into diff and locking it up 3 cv's and one front axle and one rear axle. everything that broke was made stronger and therfore makes the vehicle more reliable in the long run.

like i said, build it not to break, ie if something breaks you make it stronger so it doesnt break again. yes ive blown a fair bit of driveline stuff (see above) and each time there has been a root cause which was re-made stronger so it did not do it again.

if you build a weak point into a vehicle you will just keep breaking it and you will never improve as everytime you ask more of the vehicle it will just break... doesnt matter what brand it is.

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:08 pm
by bb402c
yes it was a jeep topic

how to fix? =longfields :twisted:[/quote]

and i wouldnt go on about those longfields to much they are no fix i had a set in my rally truck and broke them and that was only with a 2l i no many fellas who have broken them they are good but not great

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:46 pm
by wopass
bb402c wrote:yes it was a jeep topic

how to fix? =longfields :twisted:


and i wouldnt go on about those longfields to much they are no fix i had a set in my rally truck and broke them and that was only with a 2l i no many fellas who have broken them they are good but not great[/quote]

what did you break and how?? would be pretty impressive to blow a long :shock:

much stronger than standard tho yes?? therefore more reliable yes?? and if theres a stronger cv out there i would like to know what it is...

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:57 pm
by turoa
bb402c wrote:yes it was a jeep topic

how to fix? =longfields :twisted:

and i wouldnt go on about those longfields to much they are no fix i had a set in my rally truck and broke them and that was only with a 2l i no many fellas who have broken them they are good but not great


were they the old style or new style ones?

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:01 pm
by Jafa
bb402c wrote:and i wouldnt go on about those longfields to much they are no fix i had a set in my rally truck and broke them and that was only with a 2l i no many fellas who have broken them they are good but not great


Were they the 30spline set?, or the old 27spliners?, were they the old style ringed cv, plenty of people have broken the old school ones. I'd be very surprised to hear of anyone breaking a 30spline set in a trials truck with a 2l. If you did, then did you get a replacement from Bobby?, he will replace most breakages for free, even when the longs are not completely at fault (ie dodgy installs). Lifetime warranty. Did ya even speak to Bobby about them breaking?
They are by far the best solution for a Hilux or cruiser axle


heh, Turoa snap!

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:15 pm
by xj
wopass wrote:like i said, build it not to break, ie if something breaks you make it stronger so it doesnt break again.

if you build a weak point into a vehicle you will just keep breaking it and you will never improve as everytime you ask more of the vehicle it will just break... doesnt matter what brand it is.


So lets get a line of progression here... break and axle, replace it with a stornger one, that then rips a R&P, so I replace that with a beefier one, then carry on and replace the driveshafts too, just in case...... well the transfer case ain gunna handle that either now, best just pop another one in.....

But



Then



I go and put 40 inch tyres on... and start the process all over again!!!!

In all seriousness, ya gotta stop somewhere, im happy to keep replacing the left front axle

Perhaps rather than asking more of the vehicle, the driver could ask more questions of himself/herself then the need might not be so prevalent to break shit constantly... aye Shayne. :wink:

Anyway back to JEEPS BREAKING AXLES....

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:27 pm
by Jafa
xj wrote:
wopass wrote:like i said, build it not to break, ie if something breaks you make it stronger so it doesnt break again.

if you build a weak point into a vehicle you will just keep breaking it and you will never improve as everytime you ask more of the vehicle it will just break... doesnt matter what brand it is.


So lets get a line of progression here... break and axle, replace it with a stornger one, that then rips a R&P, so I replace that with a beefier one, then carry on and replace the driveshafts too, just in case...... well the transfer case ain gunna handle that either now, best just pop another one in.....

But



Then



I go and put 40 inch tyres on... and start the process all over again!!!!

In all seriousness, ya gotta stop somewhere, im happy to keep replacing the left front axle

Perhaps rather than asking more of the vehicle, the driver could ask more questions of himself/herself then the need might not be so prevalent to break shit constantly... aye Shayne. :wink:

Anyway back to JEEPS BREAKING AXLES....


Yer soz jeepers, back on topic :lol:
Only one answer I spose....... Dana 60's 8)

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:47 pm
by bb402c
Perhaps rather than asking more of the vehicle, the driver could ask more questions of himself/herself then the need might not be so prevalent to break shit constantly... aye Shayne. :wink:


what are you trying to say ??
the weekend of queen birthday i broke an axle but that was caused from the spider gears letting go

the first axle i have blown after fixing the problem Ihad witch was to much suspension travel on the lefthand side causing the u j to bind up

Re: AXLES

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:39 pm
by xj
sorry Shayne, was referring to Brett.... Ex nz trails champ that doesnt need to rev the guts out of things to get to A to B... picks great lines and "feels" his vehicle rather than running rip shit and bust at things. Comment wasnt referring to you.