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http://www.moabjeeper.com/articles/gene ... icleID=468



*edit* this is a joke. no really. nothing funny, dont read on, ignore the thread *edit*

Are they trying to kill someone??? Imagine one of those hooks giving way!!!

Apparently you can use it to attach to the chassis like this and recover someone

what do you expect from jeep owners

mercutio wrote:what do you expect from jeep owners

What are you trying to say cockjam? (and BTW just when is your wonderful POS going to move, as it hasnt moved for some years now, seems there's always a lot of talk but F/A action).

Idiots are not manufacturer specific, case in point is your above post.

I am compelled to sent them an email later....... the levels of wrong are just so many.

Good one Rex. Now are you going to spank yourself with big f...ing spoon you have there?

I have suggested this thread is removed for safety reasons in case it gives the wrong ideas.

Cheers Richard

monkey see monkey do huh, richard. we must protect the stupid people of the world

xj wrote:

mercutio wrote:what do you expect from jeep owners

What are you trying to say cockjam? (and BTW just when is your wonderful POS going to move, as it hasnt moved for some years now, seems there's always a lot of talk but F/A action).

Idiots are not manufacturer specific, case in point is your above post.

You just cannot take a joke can you?

Must be a jeep thing.

Andrew1706 wrote:

xj wrote:

mercutio wrote:what do you expect from jeep owners

What are you trying to say cockjam? (and BTW just when is your wonderful POS going to move, as it hasnt moved for some years now, seems there's always a lot of talk but F/A action).

Idiots are not manufacturer specific, case in point is your above post.

You just cannot take a joke can you?

Must be a jeep thing.

No he can, I found that quite an amusing post

Bulletproof wrote:I have suggested this thread is removed for safety reasons in case it gives the wrong ideas.

Cheers Richard

to all newbs reading this thinking its a good idea (that includes you 86surf), its not, its really dangerous. I posted it cos it was up there with some of the dumbest shit americans have produced over the years

one hopes that the bolts are high tensile

People might think I have no sense of humour. I can assure you that that is far from the truth.

I have been involved in a couple of nasty close calls and I promote safety.

The problem is that Photos are very impressionable and what is said after accounts for nothing and in the future someone will say to his mate. "I saw two hooks bolted together, what good idea "

Cheers Richard

Pedro wrote:one hopes that the bolts are high tensile

Oh yeah pedro, they were ultra safe about it.......

but we used some spares laying around. In addition to the hooks, you will need Grade 8 bolts of the appropriate length (we needed 1/2" x 2.5" bolts), 4-Grade 8 washers, and 2-Grade 8 nuts.

to Andrew.... yeah man I can take a joke, but pathetic comments like that fail to be jokes after the 300-th time from the same person. When the same people make the same lame-arse comment/joke over and over and over again, and still think that they possess some kind of comedic value, well, it just gets around to pissing a man off. Bit like the annoying geek kid that thinks jokes about the binary code are hilarious.

xj wrote:to Andrew.... yeah man I can take a joke, but pathetic comments like that fail to be jokes after the 300-th time from the same person. When the same people make the same lame-arse comment/joke over and over and over again, and still think that they possess some kind of comedic value, well, it just gets around to pissing a man off. Bit like the annoying geek kid that thinks jokes about the binary code are hilarious.

Fair enough, but I keep seeing Safaris everyday and have a giggle and never get tired of them.



Is that too subtle? Or too much thinking involved...

Andrew1706 wrote:Fair enough, but I keep seeing Safaris everyday and have a giggle and never get tired of them.

Is that too subtle? Or too much thinking involved...

Yeah... nah.... erm... over my head man.

Here's an interesting talk about tow hooks, check out post #8 specifically.... candidate for the Darwin awards.
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/show ... p?p=662284

lilpigzuk wrote:to all newbs reading this thinking its a good idea (that includes you 86surf), its not, its really dangerous. I posted it cos it was up there with some of the dumbest shit americans have produced over the years

You should Edit your original post and Add that text as some newbs may not read through the crap that has followed
My 2c
Daryle

xj wrote:I am compelled to sent them an email later....... the levels of wrong are just so many.

Me too

dazza85 wrote:

lilpigzuk wrote:to all newbs reading this thinking its a good idea (that includes you 86surf), its not, its really dangerous. I posted it cos it was up there with some of the dumbest shit americans have produced over the years

You should Edit your original post and Add that text as some newbs may not read through the crap that has followed
My 2c
Daryle

xj wrote:I am compelled to sent them an email later....... the levels of wrong are just so many.

Me too

Would also hope you will feel compelled to post those emails here

Am about to make a coffee and drop them a line. Ill be sure to copy and paste the mail, and any subsequent responses from them. Might even direct them here to have a Q and A session.

That article actually looks serious?? I thought it was someone taking the piss.
Should be a bit safer with some tape around it right?

DB, you ask and i shall deliver:

"The below linked article has just come to my attention and would like to express some concerns about it.

http://www.moabjeeper.com/articles/gene ... icleID=468

The intro talks about someone rocking up with no hooks. There-should-endeth the lesson. But instead the article goes on with this genius brainwave (after belittling the person with no hooks, perhaps the bozo that came up with this idea needs the belittleing) of hooking two recovery hooks together......

To the fourth picture. So we are going to put one end of the hook onto/into a non rated point for anchoring purposes, and snatch off this??? Do I need to point out the inherant risk in this? Well I will anyway, just in case you were the person that wrote the article or came up with this glorious plan to contend this years Darwin awards. (again, not saying it was you, just covering my bases here)
1) the attachment point gives way, and HELLO, theres a really dangerous thingy flying through the air.
2) One of the two hooks flattens out, and with no secure anchor point for the hook, again we have a possible example of ballistics potentially contributing to nastyness to humans. The idea of BOLT HOLES on a recovery hook is to BOLT IT TO A SECURE MEMBER. If its bolted to a chassis and the hook is strained to the point of flattening (because hooks are designed to flatten, not break... why.. well it stops metal hooked stuff from flying through the air) the only projectile is the strop.
The alternate solution (aside from sending the non equipped vehicle home in the first instance) might be to wrap a strop around his axle and yank him. It might damage his truck, but at least no innocent party would be at risk. And if it damaged his truck, he might do things right next time.

Next I move on to picture 5, and comment in conjunction with the quote "An Anchor Shackle of the appropriate strength would be less clumsy, and at least three times the price, the Trail Recovery Hook can be used to join two ends of recovery straps"
Firstly, again, we have a batman inspired piece of weaponry ready to kill and maim, again, should either one of these hooks fail, there is the very real potential for damage to both humans and vehicle. Secondly, I dunno where you get your "anchor shackle"s from (we call em Bow shackles down these parts) but I can get the same rating in a shackle for half the price of a towhook from my local chain and rigging supplier who sell both.

Photo 6 is accompanied by the comment "The downside is that the hook will probably chew up the frame hole." and will therefore also be damaging the strength of the hook, and the texture of the surface of the hook, the same surface that will later on (during the Darwin award semi final play-offs) have a recovery strop rubbing/abraiding on it and hence damaging the eye (if utilised in the manner of photos 4 and 5). Wonderous applause to the author for the forethought involved here.

This concept is simply irresponsible and unnecessary and downright dangerous. The entire article smacks of idiocy and lacks any credibility.

I would suggest that the paragraph (quoted) "Caution: Do NOT use the factory Jeep hooks to make our "Trail Recovery Hook"; the design is wrong to build a Trail Recovery Hook." Should read..... "Caution, dont take any notice of this because we are really just having an inter-office bet to see who is dumb enough to actually try this"

Please respond directly, or alternately a Q and A session would be appreciated on the following forum thread - http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 49&t=17129

We await with baited breath


Mark"

xj wrote:

mercutio wrote:what do you expect from jeep owners

What are you trying to say cockjam? (and BTW just when is your wonderful POS going to move, as it hasnt moved for some years now, seems there's always a lot of talk but F/A action).

Idiots are not manufacturer specific, case in point is your above post.

Not only are jeep owners idiotic and drive overpriced and under engineered vehicles, but it appears as if they are rude and bad tempered aswell.

turoa wrote:

xj wrote:

mercutio wrote:what do you expect from jeep owners

What are you trying to say cockjam? (and BTW just when is your wonderful POS going to move, as it hasnt moved for some years now, seems there's always a lot of talk but F/A action).

Idiots are not manufacturer specific, case in point is your above post.

Not only are jeep owners idiotic and drive overpriced and under engineered vehicles, but it appears as if they are rude and bad tempered aswell.

Tu's thats not fair to all Jeep owners. Only some of us are rude and bad tempered. Cant argue about them being over priced though.

Cheers for your input.

i love this idea, it can be used for lifting people by theyre eye sockets

Greatst idear evarrr!

turoa wrote:Not only are jeep owners idiotic and drive overpriced and under engineered vehicles, but it appears as if they are rude and bad tempered aswell.

What pearls of wisdom!! I have no doubt you have met and gotten to know all jeep owners and driven (and broken) all jeeps to make this insightful assessment.

BTW, there is a difference between a jeep and Jeep. If you have to ask what it is, well......

Now back to topic. Its the most irresponsible idea to come out for sometime.

TJ wrote:

turoa wrote:Not only are jeep owners idiotic and drive overpriced and under engineered vehicles, but it appears as if they are rude and bad tempered aswell.

What pearls of wisdom!! I have no doubt you have met and gotten to know all jeep owners and driven (and broken) all jeeps to make this insightful assessment.

BTW, there is a difference between a jeep and Jeep. If you have to ask what it is, well......

Now back to topic. Its the most irresponsible idea to come out for sometime.

x2 . thank you tj...turoa i dont even know ya and ya calling me a idiotic ...wtf...thanks mate....

Bubba wrote: Throw some jelly in there and make this think official!!

EEWWWWWWW..... Do ya really think that's a good idea....????

Bubba like hairy men in Jelly
But in all fairness is the person that tought this idea of putting two hooks together a hillbilly or what man I would hate to think that hes a long lost cousin of Jerrys