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1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:09 pm
by hiace007
hi i have a 87 ssr surf have pulled the 2.4d out of it. i have a 1kzte out of a supercustom ive bean told i can use a 4wd sump and pick up to get it in and mounting in is not a problem. my 2.4 box wont bolt to the motor is it worth geting custom bell and flywheel so i can use all my 2.4 stuf like drivesharfs clutch etc or what box do i need and any other probs that you guruz would know about any help would help
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:31 am
by T-Boon
Not that i know anything about the engines mentioned, But i`d reccomend getting a 4wd box that fits the motor, will likely be the same price as a custom bell, and will be stronger than all the 2.4 stuff (i'd imagine)
I`m sure on of the "know it all been there done that guys" will chip in.
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:01 am
by andrew007
use your gearbox,all you have to do is change bell housing,flywheel ,clutch.lineside have all the bits you need or ace 4wdrive.also manaul deisel pump it ,saves computer wiring etc
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:04 am
by hiace007
ive bean told the gear box i have is the smaller of the 2 the ln61 imported gearbox is the 1 and the bell housing im searching for can any 1 say they have done it this way and for the macanical pump why not use the computer i have all the wiring and the auto comp from van.
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:16 pm
by j_tomo
hi there, your truck should have a w56, bloody good box with gear driven transfer.
the g52 is the weaker box of the two and mostly found in ln60 surfs
check your build plate on the fire wall
as for the ecu side of things, in cars im all for it.
in something that sees its fair share of mud and water id go for a mechanical injector pump- easy to tune- 1 wire hook up- easy to fix in the middle of the bush- the list goes on
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:41 am
by hiace007
thanx can i use my machical pump of my 2.4 motor? so its worth geting custom bell then
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:12 pm
by skux
sorry to hijack ya thread man, but im doing the same at the mo. Could ya P.m me so i can ask ya few QZ. CHEERS
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:35 pm
by Mattman
I am pretty sure the 1KZ motors only came with the R series box behind them so you will need something from a later Surf or Hilux to fit it all up.
No reason why you can't run the computer if you have all the loom and the ECU and can wire it up yourself.
Matt.
Re: 1kz-te into 87 surf? will it work
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:38 pm
by hosehustler
Mattman wrote:I am pretty sure the 1KZ motors only came with the R series box behind them so you will need something from a later Surf or Hilux to fit it all up.
No reason why you can't run the computer if you have all the loom and the ECU and can wire it up yourself.
Matt.
What he said, you can't bolt up the 1KZ to the W56 box in your LN61 (1st generation surf), only option is to use a box from a 2nd generation surf (R series) and make a crossmember to suit, have to say though it's a shit load of work for an older surf, better to reconsider your options, a 2.8 L series engine(called a 3L) from a double cab or van will bolt straight in your engine mounts, will bolt straight up to your gearbox, can be turbo'd with a 2.4turbo and is cheap as and go pretty good, not as good as a 1KZ but if I was doing a LN61 repower this would be by far the best value for money and ease option
