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DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:42 pm
by flyingbrick
Lots of people have been asking this- and if they are anything like me they need lots of info before starting- so I'm gonna help.

The measurements and details below should make these seats a straight bolt in- however if you follow these instructions and kill yourself or somebody else and/or #### a perfectly good truck and/or seats its not my fault in any way shape or form and you must be an idiot. :lol:

You should know the following

After sitting in the seats for 1.5 hours today and having a play around it has become clear that a few changes may need to be made before you install WRX seats in your vehicle.

Note that these are not issues for me personally- however if you are of above average height or build they may be worth thinking about. I also tend to sit with my seat back fairly upright compared to many people and this is also a factor you need to consider.

1, The front of the seat is thicker than the factory seat. Although your ass seems to be in the same place as before- your legs are higher and it seems to lift you into a higher position overall. There is NO EASY WAY AROUND THIS unless you want to weld up and fit custom brackets and rails but even then you might not gain much.

You may end up around 1" higher than before. Its hard to tell.

2, The position of the seat in relation to the rails when you follow my instructions may not give you the amount of backwards movement you need. This is very easy to remedy- simply use the more rearward set of holes on the OUTER most rail and then re-drill matching holes in the flat bar and trans side rail to move that one backwards a corresponding amount.


You will need

- 2 x WRX or WRX STI front seats. Rails are not needed.

- 2 x Nissan Safari/Patrol front seats + rails.

- 4 x pieces of flat bar approx 475 long. My bar was 50mm wide and around 3.5mm thick because thats what i had around.

- 4 x steel spacers. 9mm ID and approx 25mm OD and 10mm thick.

- 12 approx M8 bolts grade 8.8 and around 25mm long. Factory bolts can however be used to secure most parts EXCEPT for the outside rails with spacers (minimum four 25mm long bolts required)

- 1 x small file so that you can elongate some bolt holes.

- 1 x 9mm drill bit with drill press (best) or hand drill

- 1 x dot punch and hammer

- 1 x Marker pen.

Alright. I'll do my best at this.

Pull your seats to pieces

Strip down your two front seats to remove the rails. The passenger seat has two extra wire links joined to a bellcrank which the rear passenger actuates by pulling a wire draw string. Cut through this rope at the bellcrank. The rest is self explanatory really. 3 M8 bolts on the outside rail- 2 on the tunnel side rail.

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Mark out and drill your four pieces of flat bar

You need three holes in each bar as per this diagram. Drill the holes at 9mm so you have a little slop because things probably will not line up 100% correctly (my seats had holes a mm or two different spacing all round)

Image

Very sorry about the poor diagram. Put the holes along the centre of the flat bar and evenly spaced from the ends, eg; if your bar is 475 long you will have 20mm between the centre of the end holes and the end of the bar.


Elongate some holes
the holes on the factory rails NEARLY line up with the holes on the STI seats. You need to file out the holes on the pressed steel rail extensions so that they match up with the STI seats. Use a small file and stretch each hole 2mm or so longer until you can unbolt them to the seat- then unbolt them.
The holes you need to stretch out are marked in white.

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Start bolting stuff together
Lay your flat bar onto the base of your STI seats with the two close holes on the TRANSMISSION side of the seat. Bolt them nicely down on this side and then assess how far out the holes are on the other side. If needed you can bash the sheet metal of the seat base half a mm or so each way until they line up.

You then want to bolt down the outside seat rails (the ones you just stretched the holes on). You need to space them out from the flat bar using your 10mm thick steel spacers and longer bolts.

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Next, grab your remaining rails and note that they are different lengths.
The passenger side needs to be bolted down with the front most bolt + factory hole and you then need to mark and drill out a new 9mm hole in the rear of the rail to match up with the hole in your flat bar. Bolt it down.
The drivers side rail is shorter and simply needs both holes stretched outwards using your file until they bolt to both pieces of flat bar.

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Nearly there!
Hook on the thick steel wire links between left and right side rails so that both latches unclip together.... and you are then ready to fit them back into your truck!

Its a tight fit but the measurements given put it in the best possible place. You will find the seat rubs a little on the door handle- I'm going to swap to aluminum interior door panels with smaller handles so this wont be a problem.

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Hope this helps everyone interested!
-Nathan

Also many thanks to Skid for arranging transport of the seats to me and to Muzza for posting pics of his install which helped give me the general idea :-D

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:57 am
by Swamped
Sweet step-by-step man.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:29 am
by DaveM
Be interested to see how they are for longer trips (comfort wise),
would buy a set, but don't want to risk having the misses whining at me that she isn't comfy :roll:

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:29 pm
by flyingbrick
I spent 1.5 hours in mine today. bloooody wonderful. Didn't realize how much I missed actually having lumbar support.

I could not be happier :mrgreen:

Edited first post to include stuff that needs to be known.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:56 pm
by Taz
Cheers for the write up man.

My rails were different on each seat but didn't really matter.

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Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:05 pm
by mudtroll
I've got Flyingbricks seats now :D , what a difference over the stock safari seats

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:12 pm
by Taz
Yeah they are comfy as, apart from getting in and out!
Thought that it might end up a bit far forward for my liking but with the extra height it evens out.
Smaller stearing wheel will fix that issue. One day.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:34 pm
by mudtroll
I already had a smaller steering wheel, luckerly, hadn't thought of that problem, easy to get in & out of & I'm no light weight :oops:

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:30 pm
by flyingbrick
mudtroll wrote:I already had a smaller steering wheel, luckerly, hadn't thought of that problem, easy to get in & out of & I'm no light weight :oops:



Crikey mate..........was that you with the green safari ute up thompsons yesterday?

I was up at the summit chatting with some blokes up there (i went up on a bike) and am SURE i saw a patrol there with MUDTROLL on the side.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:37 pm
by mudtroll
Wasn't me, must have been another good looking fella with excellant taste in vehicle & name :D

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:51 pm
by Hombrey
Mate this post has been brilliant. Just finished putting 1994 Legacy seats into my SWB safari. These directions worked a treat and the seats are a massive improvement.. Unfortunately the seats I got had an adjustable height drivers side which meant a little bit more fiddling but the dimensions for this were smack on. Thanks for the info.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:32 pm
by flyingbrick
well, I'm a brilliant kinda guy :lol: :lol:

Glad i helped :-D

-Nathan

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:47 pm
by toominator
do you run into any WOF issues if you replace the seats?

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:52 pm
by mudtroll
I bought these seats of flyingbrick, have had no problems getting wof.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:04 pm
by Taz
toominator wrote:do you run into any WOF issues if you replace the seats?


Bit late with a reply here, but no.
I was asked if they were factory rails by one dude and another recently mentioned he only passed it because the belt clip was still bolted to the floor.


Just a little bit of a follow up on these.....

Not once did I read anywhere how badly these things can pinch your nuts when you're getting out in a hurry :oops: :lol:
Jokes aside I have just about fallen into traffic because of it so be aware when you first put them in.

Also if I was to do it again I would look at setting the passenger seat back a bit further as I have a couple of mates who are really tall and find it uncomfortable for their legs on long hauls.

That is all :D

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:21 pm
by wjw
I spoke to Wayne the local certifier here about replacing the front seats in the cruiser, he said they had to be bolt in replacements, or they would require a cert. Wonder if these would count?

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:04 pm
by navara66
They are all good if you use the factory seat rails.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:44 pm
by Weasel
I took some semi-buckets to local certifier to see about installation. The safari rails would be used but because the seat base was slightly different width they would need two metal strips welding onto bottom of seats so they will line up with factory rails...suggested waiting until other cert'able things were ready because anything other than literally unbolting safari seats and bolting others on is definately new cert territory.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:24 pm
by STIC
I did mine (and, by the way, the seats in OP are from an STI RA, all other STI seats have a different base making it much more difficult) and took it down to Neil Fraser (Auckland certifier and race car builder for those who don't know him) and he said they were fine as they were, no cert needed as i had NOT: modified the rails, modified the floor mounts, or modified the seat base and mounting points on it; all i had done was add two considerably thicker and stronger pieces of steel plate (approx 5 times the size of the factory seat mount material) and used correct rated bolts...

Just re-read OP and my plate was wider (no mods to rails) and i didn't need to use any washers to pack out side of seat...and, if i recall correctly, i was originaly going to weld them, but the certifier told me not to as then they WOULD need to be certed.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:50 am
by wjw
STIC wrote:I did mine (and, by the way, the seats in OP are from an STI RA, all other STI seats have a different base making it much more difficult) and took it down to Neil Fraser (Auckland certifier and race car builder for those who don't know him) and he said they were fine as they were, no cert needed as i had NOT: modified the rails, modified the floor mounts, or modified the seat base and mounting points on it; all i had done was add two considerably thicker and stronger pieces of steel plate (approx 5 times the size of the factory seat mount material) and used correct rated bolts...

Just re-read OP and my plate was wider (no mods to rails) and i didn't need to use any washers to pack out side of seat...and, if i recall correctly, i was originaly going to weld them, but the certifier told me not to as then they WOULD need to be certed.


Yea its funny, welding and seats/belts is a no no, guys here welded the plate underneath my new seats. they had to argue about not cutting the weld. The rule is they plates should be riveted in place.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:46 pm
by p.marsh
Anyone know where i can access the missing photos off the DIY? Gonna give this an shot soon.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:20 pm
by slidenyo
just flick Nathan a pm he may still have them on file,
he should answer he posted a couple months back

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:09 pm
by mudtroll
I've got these actual seats in my truck, he did a pretty good job only had to tighten a couple of bolts over the years.

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:20 pm
by FORGE1
I used this post to get the info I needed to fit legacy seats in my safari.

I ended up using google.co.nz (searched wrx seats into nissan safari) and went to the Images tab and was able to get the pics from there. Its all there in the first 10 rows just scattered throughout. Hope that helps

Quite easy took me about 1hr for both sides.

Ray

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:17 am
by CLUMZ1
flyingbrick wrote:Lots of people have been asking this- and if they are anything like me they need lots of info before starting- so I'm gonna help.

The measurements and details below should make these seats a straight bolt in- however if you follow these instructions and kill yourself or somebody else and/or #### a perfectly good truck and/or seats its not my fault in any way shape or form and you must be an idiot. :lol:

You should know the following

After sitting in the seats for 1.5 hours today and having a play around it has become clear that a few changes may need to be made before you install WRX seats in your vehicle.

Note that these are not issues for me personally- however if you are of above average height or build they may be worth thinking about. I also tend to sit with my seat back fairly upright compared to many people and this is also a factor you need to consider.

1, The front of the seat is thicker than the factory seat. Although your ass seems to be in the same place as before- your legs are higher and it seems to lift you into a higher position overall. There is NO EASY WAY AROUND THIS unless you want to weld up and fit custom brackets and rails but even then you might not gain much.

You may end up around 1" higher than before. Its hard to tell.

2, The position of the seat in relation to the rails when you follow my instructions may not give you the amount of backwards movement you need. This is very easy to remedy- simply use the more rearward set of holes on the OUTER most rail and then re-drill matching holes in the flat bar and trans side rail to move that one backwards a corresponding amount.


You will need

- 2 x WRX or WRX STI front seats. Rails are not needed.

- 2 x Nissan Safari/Patrol front seats + rails.

- 4 x pieces of flat bar approx 475 long. My bar was 50mm wide and around 3.5mm thick because thats what i had around.

- 4 x steel spacers. 9mm ID and approx 25mm OD and 10mm thick.

- 12 approx M8 bolts grade 8.8 and around 25mm long. Factory bolts can however be used to secure most parts EXCEPT for the outside rails with spacers (minimum four 25mm long bolts required)

- 1 x small file so that you can elongate some bolt holes.

- 1 x 9mm drill bit with drill press (best) or hand drill

- 1 x dot punch and hammer

- 1 x Marker pen.

Alright. I'll do my best at this.

Pull your seats to pieces

Strip down your two front seats to remove the rails. The passenger seat has two extra wire links joined to a bellcrank which the rear passenger actuates by pulling a wire draw string. Cut through this rope at the bellcrank. The rest is self explanatory really. 3 M8 bolts on the outside rail- 2 on the tunnel side rail.

http://i2.bebo.com/052b/18/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801868l.jpg
Image A

Mark out and drill your four pieces of flat bar

You need three holes in each bar as per this diagram. Drill the holes at 9mm so you have a little slop because things probably will not line up 100% correctly (my seats had holes a mm or two different spacing all round)

http://i2.bebo.com/052b/1/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886805249l.jpg
Image B

Very sorry about the poor diagram. Put the holes along the centre of the flat bar and evenly spaced from the ends, eg; if your bar is 475 long you will have 20mm between the centre of the end holes and the end of the bar.


Elongate some holes
the holes on the factory rails NEARLY line up with the holes on the STI seats. You need to file out the holes on the pressed steel rail extensions so that they match up with the STI seats. Use a small file and stretch each hole 2mm or so longer until you can unbolt them to the seat- then unbolt them.
The holes you need to stretch out are marked in white.

http://i2.bebo.com/052b/3/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801897l.jpg
Image C
http://i2.bebo.com/052b/16/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801839l.jpg
Image D


Start bolting stuff together
Lay your flat bar onto the base of your STI seats with the two close holes on the TRANSMISSION side of the seat. Bolt them nicely down on this side and then assess how far out the holes are on the other side. If needed you can bash the sheet metal of the seat base half a mm or so each way until they line up.

You then want to bolt down the outside seat rails (the ones you just stretched the holes on). You need to space them out from the flat bar using your 10mm thick steel spacers and longer bolts.

http://i2.bebo.com/049b/20/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801907l.jpg
Image E
http://i2.bebo.com/052b/7/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801917l.jpg
Image F

Next, grab your remaining rails and note that they are different lengths.
The passenger side needs to be bolted down with the front most bolt + factory hole and you then need to mark and drill out a new 9mm hole in the rear of the rail to match up with the hole in your flat bar. Bolt it down.
The drivers side rail is shorter and simply needs both holes stretched outwards using your file until they bolt to both pieces of flat bar.

http://i2.bebo.com/049b/6/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801927l.jpg
Image G

Nearly there!
Hook on the thick steel wire links between left and right side rails so that both latches unclip together.... and you are then ready to fit them back into your truck!

Its a tight fit but the measurements given put it in the best possible place. You will find the seat rubs a little on the door handle- I'm going to swap to aluminum interior door panels with smaller handles so this wont be a problem.

http://i2.bebo.com/049b/18/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801940l.jpg
Image H

http://i2.bebo.com/049b/21/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801953l.jpg
Image I

http://i2.bebo.com/049b/18/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801969l.jpg
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http://i2.bebo.com/049b/5/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801978l.jpg
Image K

http://i2.bebo.com/052b/16/large/2009/11/22/06/3952547446a11886801823l.jpg
Image L

Hope this helps everyone interested!
-Nathan

Also many thanks to Skid for arranging transport of the seats to me and to Muzza for posting pics of his install which helped give me the general idea :-D


heres the scabbed images, anyone want to give guessing the order/location a go?
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Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:18 pm
by p.marsh
Awesome that is a massive help. Thanks

Re: DIY- WRX SEATS INTO SAFARI/PATROL

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 10:13 pm
by flyingbrick
Hi all.

Not a bad effort finding those pics. Ore doesn't send me notifications any longer hence the slow replies.

Unfortunately the most helpful drawings are still missing.. Or were maybe not made.. Unsure.

Glad I could help!