Page 1 of 1

Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:09 pm
by PeterVahry
Please sign this petition to allow time for adequate assessment of the Govt's proposals ie extend the closing date for submissions to 30 June 2010.
Sign at:
http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_fandsb.php

Quoting Hugh Barr of the recreation grouping CORANZ..

"This F&S proposal is likely to be one of the greatest privatisations NZ has ever seen. Present Foreshore and Seabed area = 100,000 sq km (approx). This is one third of the dry-land area of NZ. It is primarily the area New Zealanders recreate in - recreational fishing, boating/yachting/ diving/ holidaying beside etc.

At present the Crown owns the F&S. Minister Finlayson (formerly a lawyer working for iwi interests in Treaty negotiations) is proposing a privatisation to iwi/hapu of various rights, including customary title - exclusive rights to mining and aquaculture development, and ability to oppose any RMA developments (a likely monopoly right too).

Maori have never had these rights before. This is not a Treaty grievance, but a transfer of Crown rights to iwi/hapu/whanau. Only Maori can play this game. Non-Maori are specifically excluded. This is a political decision, not a judicial one.
Please sign. Lets have a real debate, not a hurried and stifled one."

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:14 pm
by Jerry
Signed .....

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:20 pm
by snork
Done

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:56 pm
by gimmemud
Racism at it's finest...
And done

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:23 pm
by PR
Done :mrgreen:

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:33 pm
by niblik
i'm soooo feckin sick of all this shiat... done..

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:35 pm
by Dace
Done it, now wheres my free t-shirt?

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:38 pm
by ClassicCruiserSpares
Done.

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:59 pm
by motorhead
Done

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:00 pm
by smurf182
Done

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:28 am
by bobrocket
Done

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:33 am
by wisard2
Done!

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:13 am
by SV1K
Sorted :mrgreen:

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:56 am
by Smurf
Done

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:42 am
by phraza
done! :twisted:

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:49 am
by Stage1V8
Yep. Done that. Thanks Peter.

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:21 pm
by Beer_Cruiser
Done I recon a few lawers will get very rich out of this.....

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:44 pm
by Heath
Be some lawyer's famillies getting lined up for better schools as we speak...

Signed too.

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:06 pm
by Dr_PC
Im in

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:15 pm
by pressy
done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:30 am
by basics
signed and sent away

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:35 am
by Swamped
Both me n my bro have signed. How many people do they need for it to actually be considered? And being the government can't they just ignore it?

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:30 pm
by Landy Rover
Done.

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:24 pm
by mudnutz
signed

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:25 pm
by PeterVahry
It appears that right now there are not any indications that the petition will succeed. The recreation group CORANZ are advocating that the 2004 Act should still stand as from a recreation viewpoint there are risks to many recreations from 'customary rights'.

You've shown an interest so far so what about sending a brief submission in before 30 April?

Main issues: 1 Vote to retain the 2004 F&S Act.
2 Sign the NZCPR petition for an increase in consultation time to 30 June, from 30 April (this Friday).

Where to look:
Submissions on the web or by mail, fax:
http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-c ... -to-make-a

Submissions are due by 5.00pm on Friday 30 April 2010. Late submissions will not be considered.
(So, if send by mail must post at least by Thursday)

Email your submission to foreshoreseabedreview@justice.govt.nz (if you are downloading the submission form from this site, you will need to save it to your computer and attach it to your email)mail a hard copy to the following address:

FreePost Authority number 224164
Foreshore and Seabed Review
Ministry of Justice
c/- PO Box 180
WELLINGTON 6140

Submission Form

* Submission Form (PDF, 453 KB)
* Submission Form (Word, 171 KB)

Submissions forms:
Scroll down at: http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-c ... -documents


Consultation document also at the same web address as the Submission form - but you MUST scroll down.

Sign the Centre for Political Resaerch (NZCPR) Petition to extend the time for submissions:
http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_fandsb.php

Number of signatures (Sun 25 April) = over 3600 signatures
Extend submission time for another 2 months

F&S Opinion pieces on NZCPR website:
See Michael Coote, David Round etc at:
http://www.nzcpr.com/

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:23 pm
by Smurf
emails sent

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:56 pm
by PeterVahry
Another well researched viewpoint is provided by Bruce Mason of Recreation Access NZ. (he's not a great supporter of 4x4 activities)

Bruce also suggests that the 2004 Act is not too bad but has some changes. His submission is available for use through www.nzfwda.org.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22

Send it in with your details included or just borrow his ideas and write your own version.

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:10 am
by haynzy
Swamped wrote:Both me n my bro have signed. How many people do they need for it to actually be considered? And being the government can't they just ignore it?

insert tui add here!!!

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:47 am
by lincooln
Done and Done.

I guess this is where you don't look at the Maori's as Maori's but as New Zealander's. Then all you see are greedy New Zealander's.

Re: Foreshore and Seabed debate

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:35 am
by guestynz
done