Turbo onto 3b

[Mongoose]

Hi all,
I'm looking to get my 3b-powered 60 series so that it will cruise comfortably at 100 and pull better up hills. Have been reading alot in various places about the relative ease of sticking a turbo on it

Does anyone know of somewhere in Christchurch that may be able to do this for me at a reasonable cost? Would prefer something home built or just a setup off a 13b-t. I was going to chat with 4wd upgrades but they seem pretty v8 orientated.

Thanks in advance.
Greg.

[vvilly]

go see Nathan and Rick at 4x4 accessories

[Henry]

Hi

Try Turbo Care
Unit 3
308 Wilsons Road
Waltham

Christchurch

They did mine...

[mudlva]

why dont you get a turbo off a 3bt it would be the easest tkae the manifold and everything and bolt it on
pretty sure the head bolt patterns are the same

will stand to be corrected if im wrong

pity you are on the other side of the creek could of had my unit of a small donation

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

It would be easy enough to get the parts you need and i can help you fit it. Pm me if you need a hand.

[its_that_guy2]

ill be interested in this!! keep us informed how you go

[rokhound]

Can sell you a 2h (6cyl 4.0ltr diesel) for a 60 series. It would probably be 10 hp more than a 3b .

But seriously , if you do want a 2h, I have one here for $650.00. It will need a freshen up (valve seals etc) but was going when it was pulled from truck 18mths ago.

[niblik]

get a 13bt manifold (of which i have one) get a ct26 turbo, plumb up oil lines yaself, tee in water lines from heater lines yaself, adjust intake and exhaust dump pipes and voila, oober powerhouse.

dump pipe etc..


adjusted intake


oil from turbo drain


custom dump pipe


water lines


oil line pt 1


oil lines pt 2


anyways, you got the idea.......

[Mongoose]

Thanks guys! It's been a long time, I'd forgotten how awesome ORE was...

Nibby you make it all sound so easy, is your 40 restoration on the road yet? Would you be willing to part with the 13bt manifold you have? The manifold/turbo part sounds fine but making up the pipework for the air and exhaust and then setting up the whole kit so it's working properly is a bit beyond me.

@vvilly & Henry, thanks for the advice, I'll have a chat with those guys and get an idea of price but the other guys have got me fired up for doing it myself, possibly with a bit of help

@mudlva, do you have the turbo as well or just the manifold? Shipping down to CHCH wouldn't be that expensive would it? I'd be happy to pay if I can't source the bits round here.

@ClassicCruiserSpares - thanks for the generous offer, I will probably take you up on that, I'm ok with the work up to a point but some of it I just wouldn't have a clue.

@its_that_guy2 - no worries, I'll keep this thread up to date with progress with photos where possible, although looks like Niblik has the photos sorted . If all this goes well I'm looking to do the same to my 40 as well.

@rokhound - I'll keep the H series in mind, I'd be more interested if it was already turboed but I think for the relative simplicity of it I'd rather stick with a whacking a turbo on the 3b

Cheers for the info/advice guys, will keep you up to date on progress. If anyone in or around CHCH has a set of 15" wheels that would suit the 60 and fit a set of 32s I'd be keen, reply here or PM me.

Greg.

[Henry]

Hi

PM me about the rims - I think I have what you need....

Henry

[tallsam66]

Just to throw a spanner in the works.... have you thought of supercharging it ....youll get about the same power increase but it wont put up your insurance premiums....they only ask if your vehicle is turboed ..never supercharged.

[Mongoose]

Henry, cheers, I'll PM you about the wheels

Tallsam, NOOOOO! no more options Having spent weeks reading stuff about the various options for turbos you can't introduce another option at this stage! Basically on the 60 I'm looking for a decent, but not crazy, power increase so she'll cruise comfortably at 100-110ish without spending a heap of money. It's my long-distance adventure truck/daily driver so I'm going for mild mods for reliability and comfort. The 40 is the one that will see the tough action and the bigger mods. Cheers for the thought though...

[mudlva]

got the whole motor still sitting in the engine bay (dirty diesel oil burning thingy) so yep if it needs to happen from up here for you no problems will be at least a month or so before i could get to it but due to other obligations (getting my own truck going). let me know and if you arnt in a break neck hurry we could sort something out

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

They are very easy to setup once you have the turbo and manifold, the airbox would only need minor work done to suit the turbo and the front pipe for the exhaust will need minor work unless you want a big bore pipe, and as nibz said run some oil lines and water pipes. Also pm Fakey and see if he sold his 13bt manifold?

[tallsam66]

Henry, cheers, I'll PM you about the wheels

Tallsam, NOOOOO! no more options Having spent weeks reading stuff about the various options for turbos you can't introduce another option at this stage! Basically on the 60 I'm looking for a decent, but not crazy, power increase so she'll cruise comfortably at 100-110ish without spending a heap of money. It's my long-distance adventure truck/daily driver so I'm going for mild mods for reliability and comfort. The 40 is the one that will see the tough action and the bigger mods. Cheers for the thought though...

Fair enough ..but make sure you put a dumppipe , fat exhaust & a lower restriction muffler on it .Keep all the bends as gentle & sweeping as possible.You might also liketo put a bigger air cleaner & piping to the air cleaner.The less restrictions you have in the flow of air in & out of the motor the more power you will have & the lower the EGT will be .

[Mongoose]

First part sourced:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =300034937

Looks like Nibs has a manifold so next on the list is the turbo, I know the CT26 is used in different forms on heaps of toyota engines with different internals, does anyone have any thoughts on this?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =301417212

@Mudlva - thanks, may well take you up on the offer depending on how it goes sourcing parts down here. Will be looking for a complete setup for my FJ40 too so if you want to think up a price and PM me? No hurry.

@Tallsam - The truck already has a nice mandrel bent 2.5" exhaust and straight through muffler on it courtesy of the previous owner so hopefully the turbo will breathe nicely, also hoping the turbo cuts the noise down a bit as there is an annoying booming noise at certain revs which gets wearing on long journeys.

Will keep you up to date with further progress. Thanks for all the offers of help/advice.

[niblik]

i've got the turbo on and running a short 2.5 inch exhaust system plus a straight through coby styles muffler and its pretty quiet guy.. so yeah, noise wont be an issue and she'll breathe sweet as..

[Mongoose]

Possibly looking at this for the 60, anyone have any thoughts?
A few threads on ih8mud mention the Schwitzer and sounds like a quality turbo.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=319868037

[Mongoose]

Well seems I won the auction, quite a few guys on ih8mud had good things to say about the turbo and Mercedes used them so can't be that shabby.
Rest of the build thread to come once I sort out the plumbing etc. and have everything ready.

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

Those turbos are good if its a good one to start with, also just make sure the manifold hasnt be butched to get the turbo to fit, because that turbo wasnt designed for the exhaust manifold it was being sold with, but it could of been modified properly.

[Mongoose]

Thanks Jase, have been struggling to find a CT26 to go on the manifold you were selling so if this will do the job it's all good, cheers for the advice I'll have a good look before I hand over the cash.

If the offer still stands to give a hand I'd be very grateful.

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

Yea no worries just give me a yell if you need a hand.

[Mongoose]

Well it's been a while but the project is still going ahead. Here's the turbo and manifold:





Taking a look at the turbo there is a tiny amount of play in the shaft which I'm presuming will get taken up by the oil once it has a supply.
Also it only has an oil feed by the look, no sign of a water intake so that simplifies things a bit.

The dump pipe I previously bought isn't going to be any good as it's off a CT26 and the flange is rectangular. Anyone suggest where I'd go to get a dump pipe sorted to hook up to the exhaust?
Also noticed the manifold on my 3B has the downpipe to the exhaust at the rear end whereas this one is in the middle so will need a bit of work to get the dump to where the exhaust is sitting.

So Nibz did you do the fitting into the oil filter housing and sump yourself?

Finally where would I source that blue silicon pipe stuff from to hook up the intake?

Cheers for the advice, will keep the thread up to date with progress, however slowly.

[niblik]

So Nibz did you do the fitting into the oil filter housing and sump yourself?

yeah, you'll have to take the sump off to weld a drain into it, then you can see where the 'high tide' line is also.. ensure ya drain goes into sump above that. on the feed side, take off the oil filter housing bit and check out where the high pressure gallery is and tap into that. then just drill and thread up a piece to take some oil friendly line..

Finally where would I source that blue silicon pipe stuff from to hook up the intake?

look up this guy on trade me.. he does the silicon joins in both blue and black and is pretty much the cheapest you'll find... it'll be mint on the intake.. his user name on there is sfactorshop

more specifically.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 110465.htm

[Mongoose]

So Nibz did you do the fitting into the oil filter housing and sump yourself?

yeah, you'll have to take the sump off to weld a drain into it, then you can see where the 'high tide' line is also.. ensure ya drain goes into sump above that. on the feed side, take off the oil filter housing bit and check out where the high pressure gallery is and tap into that. then just drill and thread up a piece to take some oil friendly line..

Finally where would I source that blue silicon pipe stuff from to hook up the intake?

look up this guy on trade me.. he does the silicon joins in both blue and black and is pretty much the cheapest you'll find... it'll be mint on the intake.. his user name on there is sfactorshop

more specifically.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 110465.htm

Thank you sir, you are a gent.
Might need someone to lend a hand with the work for the oil feed..

Anyone have any ideas on the downpipe?

[niblik]

if ya have a gasket of turbo's exhaust flange, that helps. if not, make a template and get a flange profile cut out like i did. then just fab a down pipe from some heavy wall pipe depending on your room specs.. weld and finish the dropper pipe.

any pics of old exhaust route and current placings of exhaust etc?

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

With the oil feed just take the oil pessure sensor out and put in a brass tee piece (FX Taylors have them) and run your line direct to your turbo from there, the make the drain into the sump but make sure its a straight down from the turbo and a 5/8 drain.
I agree with nibz just make a template out of cardboard then take it down and get a piece of 10mm plate profile cut the same as your template then make you dump pipe to suit.

[Mongoose]

if ya have a gasket of turbo's exhaust flange, that helps. if not, make a template and get a flange profile cut out like i did. then just fab a down pipe from some heavy wall pipe depending on your room specs.. weld and finish the dropper pipe.

any pics of old exhaust route and current placings of exhaust etc?

With the oil feed just take the oil pessure sensor out and put in a brass tee piece (FX Taylors have them) and run your line direct to your turbo from there, the make the drain into the sump but make sure its a straight down from the turbo and a 5/8 drain.
I agree with nibz just make a template out of cardboard then take it down and get a piece of 10mm plate profile cut the same as your template then make you dump pipe to suit.

hmmmmmm ok, nope no gasket on there so will need to make a template. Where do you suggest to go to get the plate cut?

Good thought on the oil line Jason, thankyou

Will sort some photos tomorrow of the exhaust setup as it is now Nibz. Now is wine time. Thanks for the advice guys

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

Im pretty sure auto bend will profile cut for you.

[niblik]

http://www.finda.co.nz/business/listing ... vices-ltd/

i used these guys.. they have a minimum charge, so try and get a few bits and get it all at once..