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Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:42 am
by De-Ranged
I've gone and bought a 413 with an 4AGE in it, not exactly the sort of thing I like... but the price was too good to turn down
Been out in it and found it dosn't have enought torque for my style of driving hell of a lot of fun tho lol
Got access to a supply of commy motors at a good price, it looks like it will fit, but.... I've been playing with this sort of stuff long enougn now, to know its not always that simple lol
Anyone know of some one who has done this

Oh and I'll have a heap of parts for one of these soon, as I'm pretty much planing on only keeping the body and chassi

Cheers Reece

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:56 am
by pruggerdore
It will be 5 times harder than you think and take 10 times longer than you think and since its not broken why fix it..

Now can someone say that back to me please cause I havnt got that into my thick skull yet either

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:23 am
by moonhopper
Reece you need to sell me that truck and then build another one. it is to good to strip down. you know how to get hold of me when you are ready

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:18 pm
by kernels
pruggerdore wrote:It will be 5 times harder than you think and take 10 times longer than you think and since its not broken why fix it..

Now can someone say that back to me please cause I havnt got that into my thick skull yet either


+1 on the "be 5 times harder and take 10 times longer" thing! But, would be awesome when done!

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:25 pm
by red-devil
how about you send the suki with the 4age in ti to me, ive just started to look for one as toy .

just so i dont break the vx

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:32 pm
by Swamped
I just sat my baby v8 in my 413 and it looked easy but after already fitting it to another vehicle prior i knew it was gonna be a bitch. Remember that sorta weight will affect steering and brakes etc. You'll get the motor fitted all mint then have all this extra crap to deal with afterwards. It will also be hard on the rest of the driveline.

It could be very cool if you did it right though.

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:32 pm
by rokhound
Good god Reece, WTF have you done? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Will it have yellow bits in it? :wink: :wink: .


I assume the lemons' running bits are going underneath less the dual box set up of course.

Can we see this one done? :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:25 pm
by moonhopper
no caus he is going to sell it to me, and not cut up a perfectly good truck. aren't you Reece





rokhound wrote:Good god Reece, WTF have you done? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Will it have yellow bits in it? :wink: :wink: .


I assume the lemons' running bits are going underneath less the dual box set up of course.

Can we see this one done? :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:42 pm
by meatc
given how much room a ca18de nissan motor takes up I would say the commy would be a mission if you wanted to keep stock innder guards etc. The zuk running gear would last about 30 milliseconds 2.

My CA didn't have the torque I was hoping for either so I slapped a sc12 toyota super charger on it, made a world of difference and wasn't that big a deal to fit. The 4age would be even easier as they came out as a 4agze being the supercharged version so you would be able to find factory brackets, and run the injectors and factory computer off a 4agze too.

My 2.75cents (bloody gst hikes)

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:47 pm
by DJ
Reece... Reece ...Reece.. :? Is this a set up for those that dont know you ? if anyone can make this swap happen its you.. !!

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:36 pm
by gimmemud
There was a guy at the laurie sanson trials a couple of years ago that had done it. Don't know what else he'd done to it though

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:39 pm
by nstacey
What about lower diffs or transfer case gears?

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:43 pm
by SMOKEY
Like a lot of oldies on here :shock: , don't know why Reece is asking because he will do it anyway :lol: :lol: :lol: ,

BECAUSE HE CAN,

FITZY.

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:17 pm
by You Get That
8) Keen to see this if you decide to do it.
Keep us updated.

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:21 pm
by suzukisport
Not sure how you would get it into there, getting a commodore V6 into our vitara was a strugle. All tho I did see this a while back
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 255941.htm

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:53 pm
by De-Ranged
rokhound wrote:Good god Reece, WTF have you done? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Will it have yellow bits in it? :wink: :wink: .


I assume the lemons' running bits are going underneath less the dual box set up of course.

Can we see this one done? :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Yes it will lol I'm gona paint the whole thing yellow :wink:
Arghh no sold the front to a mate for his chevylux and rear is gona be something a bit special :wink:
Oh and taking some advice I was given years ago by Mike I'm gona keep this one going, build it in sections so it does get finished :oops: :lol: hey I do finish everyone elses trucks

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:19 am
by De-Ranged
lol this has sort of attracted a bit of attention, so here's the deal to date got given a vr motor today with full electrics and a link comp just got to help a mate fit another one into a bedford camper van. Size wise it fits its just the annoying bits like heater hoses exhusts etc that will be issues will have to run a force fan infront of the rad oh and gards fire wall etc if it has to move it can this is a tin top and I'm only going to run two seats so we can move back lol
I'm going to mate it up to a 30-80 trans from a hilux shouldn't be to hard as it is just a case of a bell housing and mount the trans to the flexy plate going this route becouse the commy trans has a big flat sump with lots of crap in it that dosn't like being hit by front drive shafts
The fun bit comes when I try and fit the 40 series cruiser tranfer case still working on that more on this later, axles will be a hilux front and a custom rear mod'd up from a 40 series rear with a hilux head, leaves up front and a five link out back
Oh and tony :lol: too late finished a rather savage vertual lift on the first gard today setting it up to fit 35"s :lol:

And before all you old guys start asking yes I will throw up a build thread when I can be bothered with the cammera :wink:give you all somewhere to raz me over my unfinished projects lol

Cheers Reece

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:59 am
by DJ
give you all somewhere to raz me over my unfinished projects lol

I think I can manage to do that ..no problems LOL

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:45 am
by rokhound
This will be fun :wink: 8)

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:43 am
by badnuz
do we ask the fate of the mid-mount lada?

spare 4age to bolt into a zuk you say?????? :twisted:

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:12 am
by pruggerdore
Its my fault guys I hassled him about having no going truck till he went and and got one. perfectly good little truck but hes gonna go break it. the 4age and box is a good set up running well so get your offers in. with my builds sitting beside his he may stay motivated. whys he doing it?. Because he can,

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:31 pm
by ca18det_sj413
The commy v6 will fit in easily i have just finished fitting a lexus v8 and prado auto box and transfer into my sj413 i will get some pictures up when i work out how. If you need any advice talk to dion at automotion in levin he has a sj413 with a ss v8 and auto box with a cruiser transfer mated to the back he will be able to tell you the problems he ran into.

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:32 pm
by De-Ranged
Sorry about the slow reply been a bit involved with moving my shop to Napier..... not something I want to do again in a hurry big thanks to all the mates that helped out very appreciated

As for the lada lol still there and will be getting a working on got a new motor in fact after taking the zuk out for a play at the river with the new gf she is keen to drive so I'm gona leave the zuk for the moment and finish the lada that way we can both go out playing, this will give me time to source the parts

Thanks for the tip CA18 will get in touch I'd be keen to hear about how they mounted the cruiser transfer as my original idea is goingto need some thinking....

Cheers Reece

Re: Commy V6 into 413?

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:25 pm
by ca18det_sj413
To fit the transfer he has basically c notched the rh chassie rail but its notched horizontally outwards if you know what i mean. Check it out its on trade me for sale.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =330957904