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Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:00 pm
by Filthy4x4
Hey guys

After several hours and swear words later i finally got my starter out (not sure how its going back in) :roll:

I tested it on a battery and it works fine except its not extending the shaft maybe I didnt hook it up properly?

When it was in the truck it would do the usual click and dim the dash lights and nothing else but now that its out of the truck its spinning fine :?: :?

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:18 pm
by Taz
Did you check all the wiring before you pulled it out?

Mine did that a couple of times and it turned out the bolt clamping the positive terminal had snapped in the middle (where you couldn't see it) so there wasn't enough contact.

Might want to give everything a real good clean and grease and see what happens.

Have you pulled it all apart? It could also just be clay and crap that has gummed up all the contacts.

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:26 pm
by Filthy4x4
I didnt really look at the wiring before I took it out. I could barely see anything it was a mish to do anything I couldnt really fit my hands anywhere :lol:

Im gonna pull it apart and clean it up while its out. Ive got some neverseize so I will chuck some of that inside to lube it up.

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:26 pm
by Beer_Cruiser
Did you do the 4 by 2 test?
Put your starter motor on the floor
Put your foot on the SM
Hook SM to 12v so its running
Jam a big bit of 4 by 2 in the spining wheel
If it makes like a chainsaw its fine
If it stops spinning you need to fix your starter motor...

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:28 pm
by Filthy4x4
Will be doing that test shortly. Getting my mate to come have a look at it and put it back in for me :mrgreen:

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:06 pm
by tallsam66
Sounds like the contacts are shagged

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:40 pm
by Filthy4x4
We have sorted the problem :) the starter was completely fine :roll: the muppet thats pulled it off previously put the wrong bolts back in and theres no earth going from the starter to the body...

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:51 pm
by Taz
uwshho wrote:We have sorted the problem :) the starter was completely fine :roll: the muppet thats pulled it off previously put the wrong bolts back in and theres no earth going from the starter to the body...


At least you know what condition it is in internally now but it grinds your gears when you pull a bastard of a thing off, for what turns out to be no reason :oops: :lol:

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:00 pm
by Filthy4x4
:lol: thats very true. My mates a mobile mechanic so hes putting it back on for me :mrgreen:

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:02 pm
by Filthy4x4
:twisted: After putting the starter back on (without the mechanic) everything is hooked up + an extra earth its still not turning over :!:

Its doing the same thing :evil: :evil: :evil:

It tested fine with a block of wood I pulled it apart and cleaned it up/lubed it up and it still wont start the truck :evil: :x :shock:

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:55 pm
by evolution02
uwshho wrote::twisted: After putting the starter back on (without the mechanic) everything is hooked up + an extra earth its still not turning over :!:

Its doing the same thing :evil: :evil: :evil:

It tested fine with a block of wood I pulled it apart and cleaned it up/lubed it up and it still wont start the truck :evil: :x :shock:


For a start what is your vehicle?
Most Toyotas have a very similar stater anyhow
Is it making a heavy click noise at the starter?
Do the red dash lights go out or if headlights are on do the go very dull when trying to start?
If headlights or dash lights go dull normally batteries or battery connections.
If lights stay good normally the contacts in the starter which is very common. We replace the plunger at the same time but it can usually be reused

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:00 pm
by sibainmud
Use a majic piece of wire or the big f**k -off screw driver.
Bloody toyota's :lol: :lol:
Chur,

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:16 pm
by Filthy4x4
evolution02 wrote:
uwshho wrote::twisted: After putting the starter back on (without the mechanic) everything is hooked up + an extra earth its still not turning over :!:

Its doing the same thing :evil: :evil: :evil:

It tested fine with a block of wood I pulled it apart and cleaned it up/lubed it up and it still wont start the truck :evil: :x :shock:


For a start what is your vehicle?
Most Toyotas have a very similar stater anyhow
Is it making a heavy click noise at the starter?
Do the red dash lights go out or if headlights are on do the go very dull when trying to start?
If headlights or dash lights go dull normally batteries or battery connections.
If lights stay good normally the contacts in the starter which is very common. We replace the plunger at the same time but it can usually be reused


Its an ln130 surf with a 2lte.
Yea its making the click sound then dimming the dash lights.
Im going to load test or try another batt tomorrow.

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:19 pm
by sibainmud
Hey Caleb,
I got a battery tester and access to some spare batteries and a shed load of cables, plus I got the kit to make my own.
Let me know if I can help.
Cheers,
Simon.

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:22 pm
by Filthy4x4
sibainmud wrote:Hey Caleb,
I got a battery tester and access to some spare batteries and a shed load of cables, plus I got the kit to make my own.
Let me know if I can help.
Cheers,
Simon.


Cheers Simon,

Ill let you know if I need any of the above. Hopefully the mechanic will turn up tomorrow and have a solution so I can get back out there.

I somehow think Im never gonna hear the end of this when I come out with you guys :lol:

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:24 pm
by sibainmud
ha ha,
You and electrics not good friends :lol: :lol:

Re: Starter motor issues

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:28 pm
by Filthy4x4
By the looks of things were gonna be spending alot of time getting to know each other... I had to fix my 4wd wiring AGAIN after ripping it clean of the plug :roll: :lol: