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Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:41 pm
by sibainmud
Hey,
Could anyone tell me the plunger stroke measurement on a TD27.
And the recommended method of finding the exact TDC.
I have a DTI gauge and the adaptor to fit to the pump, but don't have an engine manual to get this information.
I have a second hand turbo pump to fit to replace the N/A pump that is leaking. Picked it up on tard me for $51 and a spare turbo for $31 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: me so happy :D
If I get a manual, that's the only thing that I would need one for as being a mechanic everything else is just good assembly practices.
Cheers,
Simon.

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:12 pm
by TD power
simon steve here mate do u whant me to come over and show you how to fit them up mate how did it go on sat

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:43 pm
by sibainmud
TD power wrote:simon steve here mate do u whant me to come over and show you how to fit them up mate how did it go on sat


Feek, no wonder you know the shiz.
Yeah that would be cool.
I'm looking at changing it next week sometime. Got a trip planned this weekend.
Got few questions for you, re front diff heads.
I'll txt ya over the weekend.
Cheers mate.

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:47 pm
by TD power
no worrys mate just let me know you should put a 12mm head and plunger on the turbo pump then wind it up to 25 psi then put it in mate

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:50 pm
by sibainmud
TD power wrote:no worrys mate just let me know you should put a 12mm head and plunger on the turbo pump then wind it up to 25 psi then put it in mate

I was thinking of doing that. You got any lying around?
How much for you to do it for me?
Cheers,

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:52 pm
by TD power
na i got nothing mate they are hard to find and real $$$ think i spent $1300 on mine but 30psi is so much fun just hope my turbo holds to getha

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:02 pm
by sibainmud
TD power wrote:na i got nothing mate they are hard to find and real $$$ think i spent $1300 on mine but 30psi is so much fun just hope my turbo holds to getha


Everyone thinks I'm BSing them if I was to say you up to 30psi on a TD27 :lol:
Oh well I'll just fit this pump and tickle it a bit :wink:
Thanks Steve.
Good marketing coming on here.
You had better do an introduction on the new members page.

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:05 pm
by TD power
thats because every one thinks the td42 is the only strong TD eng mate but a TD 27 is the same with just 2 less cyl they are built like a brick **** house

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:13 pm
by sibainmud
TD power wrote:simon steve here mate do u whant me to come over and show you how to fit them up mate how did it go on sat


my bad read :oops:
Went shed hot on Sat.
I took it easy, but looking at doing the same again or going to Woodhill to try the new tracks out, and track 20 and 21 are open again.....ya.

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 pm
by TD power
yip i must get another wof and go out for a play

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:05 pm
by wax
Did you advance your pump timing at all.If so what was the result

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:38 pm
by passengerpete
TD power wrote:thats because every one thinks the td42 is the only strong TD eng mate but a TD 27 is the same with just 2 less cyl they are built like a brick **** house

hi mate any chance ya might do a wright up on ya td27t and truck

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:13 am
by ArvinSlayer
i got the engine manual for a TD27, u want it? pm me ure email bo i will send it to you?

peace

arvin

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:35 pm
by ArvinSlayer
sorry to hijack this thread, bt just thought i might mention i also have the engine manual for ZD30, the manual i bought has them togather, so pm me if u need one for ZD30 or the mighty TD27T! XD

Peace

Arvin

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:11 pm
by slide
sibainmud wrote:
TD power wrote:na i got nothing mate they are hard to find and real $$$ think i spent $1300 on mine but 30psi is so much fun just hope my turbo holds to getha


Everyone thinks I'm BSing them if I was to say you up to 30psi on a TD27 :lol:
Oh well I'll just fit this pump and tickle it a bit :wink:
Thanks Steve.
Good marketing coming on here.
You had better do an introduction on the new members page.


I'm just having trouble believing the turbocharger can handle the 30psi?
Take it thats not stock turbo?
No doubts as to the td27 handling it, must go like a rocket compared to my slug!

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:17 pm
by sibainmud
Definitely not a stock turbo :mrgreen: Ball bearing custom one, I believe.
Not a stock fuel pump either :wink:
Not stock manifolds :P
Factory turbos can only produce 20-22 psi for a short time before Bang!
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16-18 psi is quite safe......trust me, I know :roll:

Cheers,

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:09 am
by sibainmud
Anyway, pump timing. Plunger stroke measurement is;
0.59+ or - 0.02mm (4deg BTDC).
Thanks to sandon for the link to the complete electronic manual :D

Cheers,

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:37 pm
by wax
Have you played with advancing the timing on it. I would love to see the manifold you are running on that engine

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:46 pm
by sibainmud
Mine are stock. TD's intake not too dissimilar to yours :wink:
Just a custom exhaust manifold to put turbo on.

Cheers,

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:44 pm
by wax
Nah no good.
Well not with out pics anyway!!! :lol:

What intake manifold is he using
I'm guessing no ones has advanced the spill point then huh to see what difference it makes

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:50 pm
by sibainmud
Yip, spill point tweaked. At standard idle stop, it would idle at 1200 rpm.

Cheers,

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:52 pm
by wax
Sent you a pm

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:27 pm
by wax
What intake manifold is tdpower using

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:45 pm
by sibainmud
wax wrote:What intake manifold is tdpower using

Same as yours. TD27ETI.

Cheers,

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:39 am
by wax
The one I have now is a td27t the one I am putting on is off a qd32.

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:14 pm
by slide
sibainmud wrote:And the recommended method of finding the exact TDC.

(awhile since you did this, but)
How did you get on with this?
Looking in workshop manual picture isn't very clear, some marker to line up with groove in crank pulley?

Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:51 pm
by slide
Hmm, after a couple hours searching (and looking for td42 instead), I found these :D . Hopefully its the marks I'm after :?: :D

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Re: Injection pump timing TD27

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:31 pm
by sibainmud
That's them. Remember, every two crank revolutions is one complete firing order :wink:

Cheers,