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Hey guys, Just wondering for when i get a rated snatch stop, 8000kg, is it ok do just give the towing truck death to get the stuck one out? will the strop handle it? I've got a proper rope that wont break but the terrano probly wont like the sudden stopping, but with snatch strops its not isnt stopping.

Cheers

Who wants to take this one?

Right oh,
There is a difference between towing and snatching.
Never atempt to snatch with a tow rope
A snatch has 20% stretch for a reason.
More to come...........
Cheers,

It's not the snatch strap breaking you have to worry about. It's the bullbar / shackle / hook mounting / attachment piont breaking free and becoming a missile
snatching is one of the scariest techniques you see in regular use out 4 wheeling and most people are oblivious to the masive forces and dangers involved untill it all goes wrong

If you can't get the stuck truck free with a slow 1-1.5m run up you should be using a winch.

Lol, i know it doesnt sound good, but my mate is currently stuck down river, this is the second night, and the only way out would be to go hard out....

UBZ wrote:It's not the snatch strap breaking you have to worry about. It's the bullbar / shackle / hook mounting / attachment piont breaking free and becoming a missile
snatching is one of the scariest techniques you see in regular use out 4 wheeling and most people are oblivious to the masive forces and dangers involved untill it all goes wrong

If you can't get the stuck truck free with a slow 1-1.5m run up you should be using a winch.

Ahh ok... Bit hard on us poor students that have no chance of affording a winch... =/

Where abouts are you and who wants to help recover him

u13turbo wrote:Lol, i know it doesnt sound good, but my mate is currently stuck down river, this is the second night, and the only way out would be to go hard out....

And the 8000kg strop will break or the recovery points tear out.

sibainmud wrote:Right oh,
There is a difference between towing and snatching.
Never atempt to snatch with a tow rope
A snatch has 20% stretch for a reason.
More to come...........
Cheers,

And yeah thats what i was saying, snatching a tow rope will break shit, althought 2 times i have been stuck so bad, a guy with 35s on beam axle lux just snatches with a rope and it works pretty good. Not the safest way obviously.

Jerry wrote:Where abouts are you and who wants to help recover him

He got per pressured into it.. I would tell you were but i dont want people stealing shit outta his truck.. we will get it out, its just a matter of when. hes going to start digging in morning

sounds like a 8k recovery lol

Maybe you should be asking for help, someone on here might be able to help you out

What part of the country are you in?

ropes, depends on what its made from. they can be stretchier than a snatch strap which can be useful if used correctly.

thought you might've learned bout that river by now and watched where you were driving. you need to make friends with members in goon for moments like these

mud_slinger wrote:thought you might've learned bout that river by now and watched where you were driving. you need to make friends with members in goon for moments like these

Haha its not me this time, I've learnt, Its mate pajero. And there was 5 trucks there, just no decent recovery gear. I had a cheap snatch strop which got him most of the way with the weak auto terrano, then had some fella in a surf thought he could do it, only thing he done was break my strop..

Anyone with a winch keen to help can call him on 0274726983 wrong island for me.

do it properly rather than over stressing hooks with vigerous tows

oljamesyboy wrote:sounds like a 8k recovery lol

Beat me to it

Change name of post to........Help needed,
Mate stuck (rough location).
We aren't all theaving bastids
A tray normally does the trick

if it around rangiora your talking i would come down give u a hand but dont know if zuk would be much help

Closer to ambo. I think we should be fine. I was just using this as an example for the snatch strength. Hes going to start digging in the morning so ill update 2morro night when i get home. Cheers for the offer tho

You could also use a high lift as a winch or hook up 2-3 trucks together for a slow static pull

I'd lend you my Tirfor if I was closer , that would definalty teach ya to think about where you get stuck

Anyone with a winch keen to help can call him on 0274726983

UBZ wrote:You could also use a high lift as a winch or hook up 2-3 trucks together for a slow static pull

I'd lend you my Tirfor if I was closer , that would definalty teach ya to think about where you get stuck

Im going to invest in a High lift jack eventually. I dunno if a slow static pull will have any effect at all due to the location, the whole area around it is slippery as shit...

Thanks for all your help!

Time for bed. Will update tomorrow

Jerry wrote:Anyone with a winch keen to help can call him on 0274726983

Don't call, txt.
His speaker in phone is stuffed.
Cheers,

u13turbo wrote:

UBZ wrote:You could also use a high lift as a winch or hook up 2-3 trucks together for a slow static pull

I'd lend you my Tirfor if I was closer , that would definalty teach ya to think about where you get stuck

Im going to invest in a High lift jack eventually. I dunno if a slow static pull will have any effect at all due to the location, the whole area around it is slippery as shit...

Thanks for all your help!

Time for bed. Will update tomorrow

I have a highlift u can borrow if u want to do it alone/the hard way.
ps. i have been out with a lot of guys that always back up the full 8 mteres and give it full jandle to snatch trucks out. I have seen a snatch strop break and hit the back of the towing 80 series and put a cow sized dent in the back of it. People that say you only have to worry about stray hooks are either crazy or have never been on the end of one that has broken.
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cheers

u13turbo wrote:Hey guys, Just wondering for when i get a rated snatch stop, 8000kg, is it ok do just give the towing truck death to get the stuck one out? will the strop handle it? I've got a proper rope that wont break but the terrano probly wont like the sudden stopping, but with snatch strops its not isnt stopping.

Cheers

I hope your taking pics of your recovery. We all like pics.

Jungle

u13turbo wrote:Hey guys, Just wondering for when i get a rated snatch stop, 8000kg, is it ok do just give the towing truck death to get the stuck one out? will the strop handle it? I've got a proper rope that wont break but the terrano probly wont like the sudden stopping, but with snatch strops its not isnt stopping.

Cheers

UBZ wrote:It's not the snatch strap breaking you have to worry about. It's the bullbar / shackle / hook mounting / attachment piont breaking free and becoming a missile
snatching is one of the scariest techniques you see in regular use out 4 wheeling and most people are oblivious to the masive forces and dangers involved untill it all goes wrong

If you can't get the stuck truck free with a slow 1-1.5m run up you should be using a winch.

Not much help to get the stuck truck out but as Chris has said above you put yourself and others at risk using the give it death technique, you can get away with it for years but at some stage something will fail and things can fail even when your not using the give it death technique, I've pulled a couple of bullbars off, seen others pull a few more bullbars off, pulled a hook off, bent a few hook mounts, broken strops, that shit does happen so be aware and dont think it dosent

I've txted him and offered my help at the weekend or some mobile numbers of people in Amberley if he wants ppl sooner.

did you get this sorted?

He's out! went back down this arvo with a good rope and my left over snatch strop, got 2 trucks tied to it and pulled out on the 2nd pull.
Thanks for all your help, ill try get pics up. I expect a few of you will no the location, very deep hole near the waipara river mouth, towards the rocks?

Yeah that holes pretty deep