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winch size for a surf
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:35 pm
by getsum
what is the smallest size winch that should be used on a surf??
seeing as theres so many different sizes out there.
a surf weighs what,around 1600kg-1800kg??
so 3500kg rating or would it need to be more to pull it out of a bog/up an incline??
im looking at getting a winch as myself and some mates go hunting round these parts,and usually only take the one truck...
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:43 pm
by hosehustler
My suggestion is 8000lb-9000lb ideal size. (3600kg-4100kg)
Others may suggest other sizes but the size above is what most 4wheelers use (not all) they are also best investment for resale value in the future.
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:50 pm
by rangimotors
something like this
http://winch.co.nz/winches/ewx9500-q.htmlwould be the go. although you may want to look at a hand winch in case the truck shits its self completley or you need to pull it sideways/ backwards with no power etc. Like this
http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=1133Then you can chuck it in any truck, by the sounds of it your not building a winch truck so it will only be a back up so speed shouldnt be an issue etc.
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:13 pm
by mudlva
id go for the turfir as it pulls in any direction and theres no fitting or electric leeds required.
as you said you go in by your self then if you are going in that far the turfir becomes to much work then you should also be looking at having another truck as well
just my thoughts
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:46 am
by tallsam66
hosehustler wrote:My suggestion is 8000lb-9000lb ideal size. (3600kg-4100kg)
Others may suggest other sizes but the size above is what most 4wheelers use (not all) they are also best investment for resale value in the future.
I wouldnt even think about smaller than 8 to 9000 .... if you bury ya vehicle in sticky mud up to chassis youd be screwed with a baby 3500
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:47 pm
by rangimotors
tallsam66 wrote:hosehustler wrote:My suggestion is 8000lb-9000lb ideal size. (3600kg-4100kg)
Others may suggest other sizes but the size above is what most 4wheelers use (not all) they are also best investment for resale value in the future.
I wouldnt even think about smaller than 8 to 9000 .... if you bury ya vehicle in sticky mud up to chassis youd be screwed with a baby 3500
in his first post his 3500 is kg's which is not far away from 8000 lb's so not really such a baby. With a double line pull the 3500kg (7700 lb's) would probably be fine but for the money the 9500 lb would be my choice for an electric winch. I would still get a hand winch I reckon they are the best back up when you are out alone, and as said above if you are going places that you won't get through with a hand winch then it is probably playing with fire going in with one truck anyway..
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:07 pm
by mudlva
rangimotors wrote:tallsam66 wrote:hosehustler wrote:My suggestion is 8000lb-9000lb ideal size. (3600kg-4100kg)
Others may suggest other sizes but the size above is what most 4wheelers use (not all) they are also best investment for resale value in the future.
I wouldnt even think about smaller than 8 to 9000 .... if you bury ya vehicle in sticky mud up to chassis youd be screwed with a baby 3500
in his first post his 3500 is kg's which is not far away from 8000 lb's so not really such a baby. With a double line pull the 3500kg (7700 lb's) would probably be fine but for the money the 9500 lb would be my choice for an electric winch. I would still get a hand winch I reckon they are the best back up when you are out alone, and as said above if you are going places that you won't get through with a hand winch then it is probably playing with fire going in with one truck anyway..
nicely said there rangimotors
BUT lads wil be lads and when you do go and get an electric winch, expecially a 9500 man can you go places then then, but a comes back to the old rule, best to go in with a buddy
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:30 pm
by DieselBoy
Runva EWX 9500 Q.
Best value for money out there, we have thrashed ours at winch challenges and tough truck comps, it JUST WON"T DIE
www.winch.co.nz for a good deal

Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:35 pm
by getsum
cheres for the input guys..
will be keeping my eyes peeled for some good deals
there tracks we go on arent too sevre,will be getting a hand winch as a back up aswell..
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:41 pm
by Brown Smurf
The winches from Ironman seem a pretty cheap price.
Has anyone on here had one on there truck? Any feedback?
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:00 pm
by redz driver
Id fit a Runva 12000lb to take the load off your battery and alternator and also as they are rated on the first layer of rope on the spool and not the last layer Big is better
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:20 pm
by mike
DieselBoy wrote:Runva EWX 9500 Q.
Best value for money out there, we have thrashed ours at winch challenges and tough truck comps, it JUST WON"T DIE
http://www.winch.co.nz for a good deal

what he said, i have one of them and its nice and fast and on a LR which is the same weight as my surf I'd say. I also have a runva 12000 pound on the surf, never use it but when i have its been wicked, but slower than the 9500 Q.
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:07 am
by rokhound
If you are going to set up a manual one as well, and as most guys carry a hilift type jack, why not just throw some chains in to convert that to the manual winch, or can nobody here remember doing that?
Re: winch size for a surf
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:38 am
by mudlva
rokhound wrote:If you are going to set up a manual one as well, and as most guys carry a hilift type jack, why not just throw some chains in to convert that to the manual winch, or can nobody here remember doing that?
yes hilifts do work but with only 1mtr of travel you will also need two truck tiedowns to hold the vechile as you reset and as most trees are 10+mtrs away things start getting very busy verses a comealong with 1 cable and the winching block it is a lot simplier
just on a side here i havent used my comealong for years now but never go into the bush with out having my trusty hilift with me. that jack has got me out of so many suituations