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another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:14 pm
by BigRedCruiser
Looked around on the forum but cant find anything recent on this.
Tried looking online but ltsa and aa want to hide the truth or iv got internet blindness haha
Is it still legal to a-frame an unregd no wof jimny as long as its in safe condition to do so?
What defines safe condition?
or am i better off to get a lil trailer made up?
or saving a lil extra to buy a road legal jimny and keep it ligit and certed?
About to jump into the awesome world of a mortgage

its my last bid at freedom

so a cost effective option would be great thanks guys!!!
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:58 pm
by radar21
it is still legal as long as the vehicle is in a trailer wof condition ie tyres/wheelbearings/lights/springs and there is a safety chain at ether end of the a frame
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:29 pm
by badnuz
i asked this q of NZTA back in 09 this was thier response:
Good morning Euan
Thank you for your email dated 10 May 2009.
A vehicle temporarily under tow is not required to be registered, licensed or warranted – but must be in a safe condition to be towed with an A-Frame. We recommend that a safety check is carried out on the towed vehicle to ensure it is fit to be towed, that the towing equipment is in good order and that safety chain/s are correctly applied.
I hope this has been of assistance.
Regards
Senior Customer Service Representative
NZ Transport Agency
On 1 August 2008, Land Transport New Zealand and Transit New Zealand became the NZ Transport Agency. The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) brings together the functions of Land Transport NZ and Transit to provide an integrated approach to transport planning, funding and delivery.
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:47 pm
by chrome
the motor caravan accoc is usually the most up to date on all this, but as far as i knew it has the same laws applied to it as flat towing
if u use a light bar and double chain it, that usually keeps the coppers happy
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:01 pm
by badnuz
I used to have tail lights hooked to my last couple of zuks and that was about it for a-framing(apart from safety chain of course), i towed them to rallywoods from here a few times no police issues

Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:57 pm
by BigRedCruiser
outstanding so if i get a light bar like those ones from super cheap auto for trailers? and a saftey chain and the vehicle wont fall to bits its alright? Iv read a bit about how towing with an aframe really affects the handling of the tow vehicle. is it really bad or just like a usual cheap trailer thats been overloaded?
If you locked the steering aka the front wheels stay straight wuld that make it better or worse?
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:59 pm
by badnuz
i used an 80 to tow a 413, it was sweet as. they chap i bought the 413 from had it flip his surf....
i used the seatbelt thru the steering wheel to limit the amount of steering..
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:26 am
by Smurf
BigRedCruiser wrote:If you locked the steering aka the front wheels stay straight wuld that make it better or worse?
your wheels need to be able to turn
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:06 am
by BigRedCruiser
how did it manage to flip his surf? jw because ill be using a surf

Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:11 am
by radar21
i would say going way to fast
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:42 am
by muddyhilux
ive heard of a few guys that just get some trailer cable and clip it into the front lights etc and then just plug it into tow car eliminating a light bar,that is if you've still got lights on the rear of the truck
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:57 am
by badnuz
radar21 wrote:i would say going way to fast
on gravel....

Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:35 pm
by radar21
thats the 1

Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:52 pm
by BigRedCruiser
ohk swee as wont go doing that then. so it is a good option?
thanks heaps for all the info and help wanna make sure im doing everything right and get the right combo cheers
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:15 pm
by safaripete
the only problem i can see with a framing is if you break something at least with a trailor you can still get it home
just something to think about
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:05 pm
by muddyhilux
what do you guys think about those half trailers?think they're called chariots?all you need is something to lock up the steering if you broke the back end,im toying with the idea of making one up with tool box on it as well
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:13 pm
by aroma
I've wired up a trailer plug to the front of the jeep running to the rear light and indicators and have a second removable lead long enought to go the lenght of the A frame,like rental trailers have
if truck raod legal when you buy it change reg to A then it is still regoed $65 per year last time I did mine.
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:38 pm
by BigRedCruiser
what does reg a type mean??? sounds intresting!
Re: another a frame update wanted
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:51 am
by wjw