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dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:14 am
by muskie
in the process of fitting up a dsr 430 turbo to my GQ, what size should the oil return pipe be?? would AN6 fittings be ok.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:38 am
by Big Will
my return is 17mm ID

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:02 pm
by mud_slinger
your game running a dsr turbo. :?

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:16 pm
by coxsy
why? inlighten please :?:

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:19 pm
by ClassicCruiserSpares
mud_slinger wrote:your game running a dsr turbo. :?

Whats wrong with the DSR Turbo?

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:22 pm
by mud_slinger
google dsr and the whole first page is basically bout how crap and how much they fail oh and how much the guy that sells them is a cock and wont refund nor honour warrenty

here is some interesting reading from another forum and note the replies mr dsr gives

http://primeracarclub.co.nz/smf/index.php?topic=16255.0

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:07 pm
by Big Will
mud_slinger wrote:google dsr and the whole first page is basically bout how crap and how much they fail oh and how much the guy that sells them is a cock and wont refund nor honour warrenty

here is some interesting reading from another forum and note the replies mr dsr gives

http://primeracarclub.co.nz/smf/index.php?topic=16255.0


Dude, firstly I know the guy who does a lot of warranty work for Dayne quite well, virtually every turbo that goes over his bench is stuffed due to engine bits going through the center housing, or no oil going through it..

The turbo I have is one such warranty one, it arrived in a brand new state at the new owners house, he fitted it (without cleaning any of the old bits of engine bearing out of the oil feed and within 10 minutes the turbo was lunch.

Dayne was called up by the guy who was crying and sobbing on the other end of the phone saying how it was the DSR430 that had the issue and was adamant it was not anything to do with a fitting error, and instead of getting it in the ear Dayne sent a replacement turbo.. Only to find that it was actually indeed a fitting error.

So don't be so hasty to jump on the band wagon unless you know what your talking about..

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:17 pm
by mud_slinger
i know what i'm talking about i also a know a brand new turbo should hold boost not loose boost and i also know daynes customer skills are not adequate and as a supplier should be happy to investigate why it wasn't working, not telling the customer to fark off and also create a new trade me account after his first account has such crap feedback. and there is so much negative feedback to his product.

why werent these turbos taken back by him and sent to your mate to be checked out instead of him basically telling them to fark off?

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:23 pm
by Big Will
At the end of the day, neither of us were there, you have no way of knowing how the customer reacted when they stuffed their brand new turbo, usually its blaming the first person they see, The dyno guy who says it was probably your mechanics fault and if that happens to be the customer then it must be the turbos fault!!.

But anyway, I will be fitting my DSR430 to my 5L-T without a wastegate, if it breaks I wont be crying. Im willing to bet it is going to work, and very well at that.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:57 pm
by dsrturbo
Mud Slinger, I think you should go back to driving a Primer. Actually we sell over 6 kits for td42 kits a week. A lot of them are readers of this forum and each one of them has had no trouble with the dsrturbo patrol kit. Go and Sling your primer in the primer forum. If you have nothing good to say. LEAVE

http://www.dsrturbo.com

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:59 pm
by coxsy
so from this, i should clean the sump out, fill with new oil, feed oil in to the feed line before starting,

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:00 pm
by dsrturbo
Big Will wrote:my return is 17mm ID


This is a good size. if you use -6 it will cause the oil to blow out the seals. The Turbo I sent you should have some with a billet oil return plate with a brass fitting. please source a oil return pipe that can fit this brass fitting.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:03 pm
by dsrturbo
coxsy wrote:so from this, i should clean the sump out, fill with new oil, feed oil in to the feed line before starting,


When fitting any journal bearing turbo you should replace oil filter/s, change oil. Prime engine till oil is coming through oil feed line ( good 150mm ) Connect oil feed line to turbo. Crank again - till oil is gushing from oil return line. Connect oil return line. Then start engine. Check for any problems ( leaks ) Then you are ready to go.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 pm
by mud_slinger
[quote="dsrturbo"]Mud Slinger, I think you should go back to driving a Primer. Actually we sell over 6 kits for td42 kits a week. A lot of them are readers of this forum and each one of them has had no trouble with the dsrturbo patrol kit. Go and Sling your primer in the primer forum. If you have nothing good to say. LEAVE


i've been a member on this forum for almost 5 years compared to your 5 mins.
people have a right to know reviews of your product and how it performs or how it doesnt for that matter and people's experiences with your product and also the aftersales support or lack there of.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:24 pm
by rob-mu
Dayne you don't help yourself do you.With the replys you give I'm surprised you sell anything
Rob

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:37 pm
by coxsy
dsrturbo wrote:
coxsy wrote:so from this, i should clean the sump out, fill with new oil, feed oil in to the feed line before starting,


When fitting any journal bearing turbo you should replace oil filter/s, change oil. Prime engine till oil is coming through oil feed line ( good 150mm ) Connect oil feed line to turbo. Crank again - till oil is gushing from oil return line. Connect oil return line. Then start engine. Check for any problems ( leaks ) Then you are ready to go.

thanks

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:39 pm
by dsrturbo
rob-mu wrote:Dayne you don't help yourself do you.With the replys you give I'm surprised you sell anything
Rob


This Primera forum Rob I'm over it. so forgive me if I seem up tight. It is all because of one guy that purchased a Turbo that did not make as much power as he wanted and wanting a refund. i rejected him. he then black mailed me with posting on every forum in the land ( which he did ) and this is where we are now.

Its what counts now and what has counted for the past two years that is whats important. Not members bringing up baggage and bad mouthing myself hard when they have never dealt with myself personally. I will always stick up for myself.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedba ... er=2956914

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:43 pm
by mud_slinger
thats the new trade me acc not his first one with all the bad feedback.
and its more than one guy who has issues with faulty turbos

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:53 pm
by darinz
mud_slinger wrote:thats the new trade me acc not his first one with all the bad feedback.
and its more than one guy who has issues with faulty turbos


Yeah DSR turbo has 984 positive feedbacks with 1 neutral and no negatives. So yeah his products must be complete crap!!!

But upon saying that I have heard from reliable sources that the thrust bearings in the turbo don't last the same as a Garrett but they are 1/3 the price too!!!

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:32 pm
by mud_slinger
look up his old tard me acc not his new one

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:47 pm
by monstr
mud_slinger wrote:look up his old tard me acc not his new one

This is sounding more and more like someone has a personal vendetta against the guy ,for f#cks sake let it go

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:20 am
by u13turbo
monstr wrote:
mud_slinger wrote:look up his old tard me acc not his new one

This is sounding more and more like someone has a personal vendetta against the guy ,for f#cks sake let it go


Its true, his older account has alot of negative feedback.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:44 am
by Big Will
monstr wrote:
mud_slinger wrote:look up his old tard me acc not his new one

This is sounding more and more like someone has a personal vendetta against the guy ,for f#cks sake let it go


Sounds like someone wanted a new turbo for Christmas but got a lump of coal..

darinz wrote:
mud_slinger wrote:thats the new trade me acc not his first one with all the bad feedback.
and its more than one guy who has issues with faulty turbos


Yeah DSR turbo has 984 positive feedbacks with 1 neutral and no negatives. So yeah his products must be complete crap!!!

But upon saying that I have heard from reliable sources that the thrust bearings in the turbo don't last the same as a Garrett but they are 1/3 the price too!!!


The thrust washers have been upgraded sine the first release of the DSR turbos.
Ive built crap loads of turbo engines and I wouldn't use a Shit turbo, the DSR430 turbo is a robust unit. Im just waiting for the new DSR series to come out with the Holset center mmmm..

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:58 am
by DieselBoy
FYI, if you are concerned about longevity of the rotating assembly, the bearing and seals and thrust washers are all available as standard Garret parts.

A Garret bearing and seal kit as I had fitted to my DSR Turbo is $150.

I also had it balanced as well seeing as it was apart on the bench.

It's a great piece of kit $$ for $$ :twisted: :twisted:

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:34 pm
by Shane
I had a DSR TD42 kit on my old safari(sold now)went very well,esp for the price(hole kit cost less than a garret turbo)3 of my friends have also brought kits one of them not finished yate,all happy at this stage.
I did have a small problem with mine(should have got the ext gate model)I called Dayne we tryed a few different things over a peroid of time and he always keep to his word.

I would buy from DSR again

Shane

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:43 pm
by coxsy
yes shane, will do the same again nice guy to deal with, answers all my questions quickly.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:27 pm
by muskie
dsrturbo wrote:
Big Will wrote:my return is 17mm ID


This is a good size. if you use -6 it will cause the oil to blow out the seals. The Turbo I sent you should have some with a billet oil return plate with a brass fitting. please source a oil return pipe that can fit this brass fitting.



no, didnt get billet plate or brass fitting with the turbo thats why i asked the question as there is no way of knowing the "ideal size" for return pipe....would make it alot easier fitting up rather than making something up.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:42 am
by Big Will
Did you buy yours in the Kit or did you buy the turbo separately?
Either way give Dayne a holla Im sure he will be able to fix it up.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:09 pm
by muskie
Big Will wrote:Did you buy yours in the Kit or did you buy the turbo separately?
Either way give Dayne a holla Im sure he will be able to fix it up.



i bought the kit but didnt get the return outlet piece in the kit, it was a few months ago when i bought maybe the kit has been upgraded.

Re: dsr turbo oil return pipe

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:55 pm
by coxsy
same here :roll: