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Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:24 pm
by Hug-o
My injector pump died on me about 3 weeks ago, i got a 2nd hand one off a member on here and put it in. Truck runs but is gutless has no balls what soever.
Showing codes 13 and 14.
Help? Aha
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:29 pm
by ClassicCruiserSpares
What vehicle and motor is it? Is the plunger timing set rite? Injection timing rite?
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:31 pm
by Hug-o
Sorry forgot to add that bit of info.
Kzn130 surf.
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:41 pm
by mudlva
yep timing is out
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:57 pm
by Hug-o
Timing is not out, have tripple checked it.
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:00 pm
by mudlva
ok then look for fuel blockages
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:02 pm
by sibainmud
You used the "out" banjo bolt in the right place?
Does it change things if you pump primer plunger on filter?
Cheers,
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:41 pm
by ClassicCruiserSpares
Hug-o wrote:Timing is not out, have tripple checked it.
I dont know too much about the 1kz but did you fit the pump put the gears on lined the marks up? and is the marks on the pump housing lined up with the marks on the housing attached to the motor? Is that how you set the timing?
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:52 pm
by tweake
possibly rpm pick up is damaged or not plugged in properly.
i can't quite remember with them if there is some play to fine turn the timing. there was some info on the surf site about it.
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:30 pm
by Hug-o
I had everything at TDC when i took the pump out and put the new one in.
I spend the good part of thismorning trying different sensors and mucking with the timing etc. Could it just be another melon pump??
Does anyone have a pump i could borrow for a few days to see if it is??
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:27 am
by mikee
Pumps are different between auto and manual,need to be sure you have the right one.
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:33 pm
by Hug-o
How do you tell the difference between the two?
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:19 pm
by mikee
Dont know but a mate took a motor from a manual and put it in his auto would start and idle but not much more,swapped pumps and all good.May-be different part no's or code.
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:46 pm
by tallsam66
As from the manual
Code 13(Revolution Signal 2)
Check wiring & connector (Diesel Engine Revolution Sensor)
Check Engine control computer
Code 14 Timer Control Valve
Check Wiring & connector
Check Fuel Filter (Frozen / Air in )
Check Fuel Filter (Choked)
Check Injection Pump (internal pressure)
Check Engine control computer.
If had 14 come up when ive had water in fuel filter or when its done about 20,000km
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:20 pm
by bda4130
http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21315&highlight=diesel+timing+ecuHave a look at this... Seems like voodoo, but actually works, I fitted a new pump, manually set timing, wasn't happy with it so tried this and was much smoother on startup.
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:25 pm
by Hug-o
Intresting. Will try this tonight!!
Re: Put new injector pump in, now gutless and hard to start??
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:25 pm
by bda4130
Hug-o wrote:Intresting. Will try this tonight!!
Yup, no harm in trying it... It's like a tune up while you sleep! Works on lots of different vehicles apparently.