Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:55 pm
i have a 2001 jeep wrangler and need more flex.already have a 50mm lift with raw shocks and cobra springs. How do i get more flex with out spending to much $$$?
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Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:59 pm
Fit some swaybar disconnects on the front swaybar. Run the softest springs you are happy with.
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:33 pm
chuck the rear sway bar out, handles fine without one
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:34 pm
what are sway bar disconnections?
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:37 pm
they are a quick release gizmo that you disconnect and tie up out of the way so your front end can boogie, look at http://www.offroadspecialties.co.nz
sorry when you get there click JKS Manufacturing (9) at the top
sorry when you get there click JKS Manufacturing (9) at the top
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:53 pm
any ony got any pics of how much more flex they get with out sway bars?
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:55 pm
will see if I can find some
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:57 pm
k sweet.any other ways to get more flex?
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:11 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDmJiYu6Cw0
check this out
check this out
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:29 pm
here's one I liked the look of a while back, good luck, let us know how you get on, have you done Slip Yoke eliminator kit yet ???
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:59 pm
only had truck for a week and not realy sure what else has been done to it 
What is a slip yoke?
What is a slip yoke?Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:42 pm
at the rear of your transfer case, the output shaft is quite long and the driveshaft actually slides up and down it ( not like a normal driveshaft where the sliding occurs in the driveshaft itself )as your rear suspension moves up and down, this is a slip yoke drive shaft, see this on youtube it will explain better than I can www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdBaJfBfkdo as you raise your jeep the pinion angle changes and binding of slip yoke can and will occur especially when you're offroad, mine broke shaft just as it enters housing and blew my tranfer case to bits
, I went for a mega short SYE and a modified 92 Hi-lux driveshaft, with flanges not u-joints, and it's awesome
, I went for a mega short SYE and a modified 92 Hi-lux driveshaft, with flanges not u-joints, and it's awesome
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:48 pm
Fit a rear locker instead 
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:50 pm
DieselBoy wrote:Fit a rear locker instead
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:50 pm
Lynx wrote:DieselBoy wrote:Fit a rear locker instead
all good but doesn't eliminate the slip yoke drive shaft does it , which is what we are talking about
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:04 am
Mr Zuk wrote:only had truck for a week and not realy sure what else has been done to it
heres an idea, get out there and drive it and learn before you spend far too much money on crap you probably never needed in the first place only to have the stock standard 410 suzuki from down the road drive further than you
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:13 am
WRNGLR wrote:Lynx wrote:DieselBoy wrote:Fit a rear locker instead
all good but doesn't eliminate the slip yoke drive shaft does it , which is what we are talking about
I wasn't going to bother, but I can't help myself sometimes
Do you want more flex so you can look cool or do you want more flex so you can go more places??
If you want to go more places I would argue that a diff lock in the rear would get you further along any track than more flex would for the equivalent $$.
Ya open your rear diff up and slap a the locker in. Everything else can stay stock as Mr Jeep intended it to be after all their R&D.
To get more flex you need longer springs, shocks, brake lines, steering mods, slip yoke eliminator, aftermarket adjustable radius arms the list goes on.........
With a locker, you don't need to bother with any of that crap, your suspensions stays as awesome and balanced as it was standard.
That's were I was coming from with the locker comment anyways
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:25 pm
yes i want more flex so i can go more places 
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:58 pm
In that case IMO your best bet is to leave the suspension stock, as you run into all sorts of weird issues with a jeep due to the short radius arms and other freaky stuff like the slip yoke D/S etc
Price up a diff lock instead. That way even if it has lifted a wheel due to running out of articulation, the locker will still allow you to drive through it.
With a locker, lifted wheels and lack of flex don't matter anymore
Price up a diff lock instead. That way even if it has lifted a wheel due to running out of articulation, the locker will still allow you to drive through it.
With a locker, lifted wheels and lack of flex don't matter anymore
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:57 am
WRNGLR wrote:at the rear of your transfer case, the output shaft is quite long and the driveshaft actually slides up and down it ( not like a normal driveshaft where the sliding occurs in the driveshaft itself )as your rear suspension moves up and down, this is a slip yoke drive shaft, see this on youtube it will explain better than I can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdBaJfBfkdo as you raise your jeep the pinion angle changes and binding of slip yoke can and will occur especially when you're offroad, mine broke shaft just as it enters housing and blew my tranfer case to bits
, I went for a mega short SYE and a modified 92 Hi-lux driveshaft, with flanges not u-joints, and it's awesome
Hey WRNGLR, who did your SYE driveshaft for you and roughly what did it cost? I'm looking at doing a 3-4" lift and feel this conversion is an important part of the process. Cheers
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:13 pm
I've got a 4" lift, with a SYE and front sway disconnects. (need to remove the rear sway)
I'm pretty happy with my flex (getting different rims/flares soon so i can stop the rubbing).
Here is a pic of it flexing, it can flex more (drain wasn't that deep haha was just mucking around)
I'm pretty happy with my flex (getting different rims/flares soon so i can stop the rubbing).
Here is a pic of it flexing, it can flex more (drain wasn't that deep haha was just mucking around)
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:37 pm
NZOIIIIO wrote:WRNGLR wrote:at the rear of your transfer case, the output shaft is quite long and the driveshaft actually slides up and down it ( not like a normal driveshaft where the sliding occurs in the driveshaft itself )as your rear suspension moves up and down, this is a slip yoke drive shaft, see this on youtube it will explain better than I can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdBaJfBfkdo as you raise your jeep the pinion angle changes and binding of slip yoke can and will occur especially when you're offroad, mine broke shaft just as it enters housing and blew my tranfer case to bits
, I went for a mega short SYE and a modified 92 Hi-lux driveshaft, with flanges not u-joints, and it's awesome
Hey WRNGLR, who did your SYE driveshaft for you and roughly what did it cost? I'm looking at doing a 3-4" lift and feel this conversion is an important part of the process. Cheers
I bought the bits after smashing my trans case and did it my self, dead easy but do it with trans case out of truck, not in place like some say you can. got the bits from Greg in Wangarei , offroadspecialties.co.nz, all instructions come with it , easy to follow, one specialised tool needed which I have to remove flat circlips, cost me about $1800 all up for a mega short SYE but that was including a second hand trans case aswell, would cost about $1100 or there abouts for SYE and driveshaft
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:49 pm
Another question on flex; is it fairly straight forward to remove the rear sway bar? Might do mine the next time i head out offroading
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:37 pm
Real easy, a nut on each side of the truck that holds the swaybar onto the swaybar droppers and 2 bolts that hold the brackets with bushes onto the diff
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:45 pm
uptomynutsinruts wrote:Real easy, a nut on each side of the truck that holds the swaybar onto the swaybar droppers and 2 bolts that hold the brackets with bushes onto the diff
Sounds like a walk in the park! Cheers for your help
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:36 pm
phraza wrote:uptomynutsinruts wrote:Real easy, a nut on each side of the truck that holds the swaybar onto the swaybar droppers and 2 bolts that hold the brackets with bushes onto the diff
Sounds like a walk in the park! Cheers for your help
Yup dead easy Phraza, a total of six bolts/nuts , took me about 15 minutes , had a bit of a rest while I was under there so the missus didn't give me any jobs.
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:09 pm
haha might have to do the same!
Re: Need more flex!
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:09 pm