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Hi guys,
I have a 1993 Terrano RzM, 2.7l td.
start from the beginning:

in 2008, at 230tkm, the gearbox broke down when shifting out of reverse and into 1st, had all the bearings replaced and the mech left a note on the invoice saying "shaft wear on input centre harding" [sic].
I guess that meant there is wear on the hardening on the input shaft.
unfortunately he did not leave any recommendations on what to do about it.
Gearbox had been a wee bit noisy ever since thru 2nd and 3rd gear. not sure about the other as usually the regular driving noise might drown out the whine.
Last weekend then, going uphill in 3rd in got real noisy, kinda growling grinding. back into 2nd no prob's. It's at 270tkm now.

That night though, after work, it did not want to shift into 4th gear at all, just blocked. no noise, just impossible to shift into.

I can select 4th when the engine is off with a little effort and wiggling the gear stick. It even drives off in 4th then. tried a couple of times and it only slipped out once.


What to do?


Is there any chance it might be something rather simple, like a linkage problem? Or would the box HAVE TO come out in ANY case?

The truck is valued (insured) for 2300.-
So I'm a bit hesitant to spend a potential 1600.- on re-con the gearbox, with 12-15h labour at $65-75/h at a time when I wanted to buy a new car/truck anyway....

Open for any suggestions.....

what kinda truck is it bud? If its a safari you can usually pic up a second hand one for pretty cheap

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 143748.htm.

there a weak gearbox and its pretty common for them to fail, theres plenty of threads about them in the archives

crazyclark31 wrote:what kinda truck is it bud? If its a safari you can usually pic up a second hand one for pretty cheap

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 143748.htm.

Read his post, he says at the start

Hi guys,
I have a 1993 Terrano RzM, 2.7l td.
start from the beginning:

kiwipete wrote:Read his post, he says at the start

read the edit

pm ur number ill be able to tell you if its stuffed or not. im in wanaka also.

I got two stuffed ones here
Plenty of guys here have rebuilt them and had them go again within 50,000 k's. It is a weakness.
I blew reverse on my last one and bought another truck with a noisy box and bought a different model box to fit to it. All is well so far, but i will never tow or give 5th a hard time as this seams to be the start of some of the problems.
See if you can find a cheap box but they are harder to find due to them blowing up all the time
Or sell it as is.
Best of luck.

Cheers,

sibainmud wrote:I got two stuffed ones here
Plenty of guys here have rebuilt them and had them go again within 50,000 k's. It is a weakness.
I blew reverse on my last one and bought another truck with a noisy box and bought a different model box to fit to it. All is well so far, but i will never tow or give 5th a hard time as this seams to be the start of some of the problems.
See if you can find a cheap box but they are harder to find due to them blowing up all the time
Or sell it as is.
Best of luck.

Cheers,

Sorry to thread jack but what different model gearbox did you put in?

at a guess simon would off used a v6 terrano box and swaped the bell housing off his td gearbox on to the v6 one.

I just used a more modern version of the same box. if i was to name the exact one the price would rise due to increase in demand
Lets play the same game they play on Sesame Street
Which one an't like the others?

Can you spot it
Cheers,

Shop around for rebuilds, I had put a couple of 2nd hand ones in a terrano only for them to shit themselves after 20thousand odd kms, then got one rebuilt. Cost $650 from memory. Definatly not $1600.

juz wrote:Shop around for rebuilds, I had put a couple of 2nd hand ones in a terrano only for them to shit themselves after 20thousand odd kms, then got one rebuilt. Cost $650 from memory. Definatly not $1600.

Yeah, can pickup a bearing kit for $250ish and then get a shop to do it for $300(I've heard of a guy that has, Dont know if thats the normal price) But then if you get a garage to get the box out, and put back in, It will add up abit.

Yeah, that's exactly the problem. The bearing kit is only 250.- but I need a new shft as well by the sounds of it (hardening worn out). Itś more the 10+ hours of mech's labour that kills it (prices in Wanaka range from 55-75/h). With a hands-on help from someone I might be able to at least get it out and back in later after a shop rebuilt. But I don't even have a pit etc..

Hey guys, thanks for all the advice; I'll put the truck on trademe for a one dollar reserve including photos if anyone's keen on it. Happy bidding.
MM

could you please pm me the model of this box as i want to replace mine with this one thanks

^^^^^ like he said i used up 4 boxs n now the 2door sits in the shed waiting for another box.
brought a auto 4 door to keep 4x4ing untill i can get a decent box for it.

nissantd27 wrote:could you please pm me the model of this box as i want to replace mine with this one thanks

long wrote:^^^^^ like he said i used up 4 boxs n now the 2door sits in the shed waiting for another box.

stop towing in 5th gear

will i am wrote:

long wrote:^^^^^ like he said i used up 4 boxs n now the 2door sits in the shed waiting for another box.

stop towing in 5th gear

It would be a different story if i had been towing all i use it for is playing and going to work ive got a decent tow wagon so i dont use the terrano to tow

long wrote:^^^^^ like he said i used up 4 boxs n now the 2door sits in the shed waiting for another box.

What are you doin with all the old boxes? Recon them all and you'd have a small fortune in your shed

just sitting in the shed

come on whats the box that u have a picture of tell us

its out of an r20 terrano or an r50 pathfinder