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Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:05 pm
by gav
Just wondering... as I guess with most older diesels, when I put the engine under a bit of strain I tend to get a bit of black smoke (or a lot if really giving it some welly!).
What's the reason for this, and is there anything I can do to minimise this? I tend to put a bit of engine cleaner in before swapping the oil out.
Cheers,
Gav
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:51 pm
by HARD L200
the black smoke is unburnt diesel and yes older diesels smoke more. it is not burning all the fuel at lower revs cause the pump is adding to much fuel for the amount air entering the engine therefore making it run rich. it can be minimised by making sure the air filter is clean and not resticting air flow. and you can also adjust the injector pump so it governs the amount of fuel.
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:00 pm
by gav
Cheers HARD L200 - great to get a solid explanation! Much appreciated

Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:31 pm
by sibainmud
One aspect he has left out, as an engine gets old the piston rings don't seal as well causing blow-by and a lesser amount of compression resulting in less oxygen in the combustion resulting in more unburnt fuel leaving via the exhaust.....phew.
For someone with shyt typing skill that was an effort
Not to mention the wear in the injector tips, resulting in larger droplets of fuel being injected, that the engine finds harder to completely burn.
Cheers,
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:36 pm
by TD power
add more boost

Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:37 pm
by sibainmud
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:40 pm
by Mud Hog
I found moreys diesel additive helped reduce smoke and runs better on hills.
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:42 pm
by TD power
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:47 pm
by HARD L200
Yea that is one point i missed out on there sibainmud
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:19 pm
by Mud Hog
Yes that's when it's under load smart arse
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:54 am
by Overkill
Mud Hog wrote:I found moreys diesel additive helped reduce smoke and runs better on hills.
Yup, my father swears by that stuff, his Pajero with 380thou on the clock and running morleys gives no smoke, misses it in a tank when filling and he notices the difference including performance....

Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:16 pm
by gav
Mud Hog wrote:I found moreys diesel additive helped reduce smoke and runs better on hills.
Cheers for the suggestion - I'll give it a go

@sibainmud - Thanks for the extra explanation, much appreciated!
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:24 pm
by DDAN
I second that
MOREYS DIESEL SMOKE KILLER
and MOREYS HEAVY DUTY OIL STABILIZER
is great stuff, I've run it in every 4wd i've had, never had a problem
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:33 pm
by gav
DDAN wrote:I second that
MOREYS DIESEL SMOKE KILLER
and MOREYS HEAVY DUTY OIL STABILIZER
is great stuff, I've run it in every 4wd i've had, never had a problem
Cheers - I've just ordered some of that smoke killer off Trade Me so I guess I'll find out soon

Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:14 pm
by gav
Just thought, had engine problems about a month back - some fuel filter was getting clogged. Apparently there's also a second fuel filter a little deeper in the system that the mechanic informed me he bent some wire to reach in and hook it out as it's not really needed(?). I guess more fuel might be getting through now then making me more aware of the smoke.
It's a 1992 Nissan Safari in case you're wondering

Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:15 pm
by HARD L200
ok? as far as i know safaris have 2 identical oil filters, and one fuel filter on the lift pump in the engine bay. and if there is another fuel filter on it would be a mesh in the injector pump or in the tank itself. maybe the mechanic adjusted the fuel governor, which is easily done. also if he just used a piece of wire to pull it out it wouldnt be a paper element fuel filter it would have to be the mesh (gauze) filter in the injector pump. Just MYO.
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:24 pm
by gav
Sounds like he removed the mesh one. Anything I should worry about?

Don't know if it's just my imagination, but black smoke issue seemed to reduce considerably after I did my next oil change!?
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:46 pm
by pressy
hi gav, where in chch are you?
Re: Smokey Exhaust - Why? And how to minimise?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:58 pm
by gav
pressy wrote:hi gav, where in chch are you?
North New Brighton - just updated my profile
