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thompsons track

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:22 pm
by coxsy
Thompsons track has huge slip about 6 metres high 40 m long one 1/3 the way up, six of us we weren't keen on trying to go over it, or trying to move it

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:48 pm
by coxsy
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Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:48 pm
by mudlva
ohhh :(

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:51 pm
by coxsy
photos don't do it justice alot of cliff has come down
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Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:56 pm
by PeterVahry
It looks like the slip might have fallen onto the track, which is better than the track itself slipping. It may well mean a lengthy closure however to allow the material to stabilise a bit before any machinery goes in.... if the Council can afford to do that work. Bugger!

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:45 pm
by Drurban
Bummer alright, that was a nice track to do, all the tracks dissapearing due to nature.

Like Peter said wait until it has settled and the weather is nice before it is cleared away.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:36 pm
by T-Boon
didnt you guys bring spades ? :P

Looks like a 15 min job :P

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:44 pm
by PeterVahry
While it may be a case of having to wait a while, it seems that the Council will address the slip. They'd not yet been able to do their routine annual maintenance because of the 'summer' weather, so it is still to be done.

It will also be necessary, as the pines alongside the road are to be logged this summer. To accomplish that, the Council advise that there will be days in February when Thompsons Track will be closed to allow logging machinery to work.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:05 pm
by coxsy
are logging machinery allow on public track

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:19 pm
by monstr
coxsy wrote:are logging machinery allow on public track

As i understand it the council can do a temporary road closure and put any type of machinery up there that they like :?: Personally if it means that the slip will be cleared i dont care what they put up there :) Its to good a track to loose .

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:33 pm
by coxsy
so it a public road so non reg trucks and bikes we can tell them to piss off, :D

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:33 pm
by Mudde1
coxsy wrote:so it a public road so non reg trucks and bikes we can tell them to piss off, :D

All vehicles on Thompsons track need to be fully road legal (and pay road user charges) except when it is closed. in which case any authorized vehicle, road legal or not can use it, if authorized by the road controlling authority. no different to the motorway.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:15 pm
by Dr_PC
monstr wrote:As i understand it the council can do a temporary road closure and put any type of machinery up there that they like :?: Personally if it means that the slip will be cleared i dont care what they put up there :) Its to good a track to loose .


I agree

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:18 am
by xj
15 blokes went up there Sunday and cleared nigh on half of it by hand. The digger/dozer is due to head up there within the next 2 weeks.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:19 am
by xj
coxsy wrote:so it a public road so non reg trucks and bikes we can tell them to piss off, :D


Do you have the authority to tell people to piss off?

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:22 pm
by monstr
coxsy wrote:so it a public road so non reg trucks and bikes we can tell them to piss off, :D

I know one of the guys that will be driving one the diggers ,Let me know when your going up there to tell him to "piss off" should be fun to watch :lol:

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:10 pm
by Madaz
Mudde1 wrote:
coxsy wrote:so it a public road so non reg trucks and bikes we can tell them to piss off, :D

All vehicles on Thompsons track need to be fully road legal (and pay road user charges) except when it is closed. in which case any authorized vehicle, road legal or not can use it, if authorized by the road controlling authority. no different to the motorway.


Dont quite understand what your trying to say?
Half the vechicles that use the track wouldnt be road legal?

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:27 pm
by PeterVahry
The fact is that all vehicles using Thompsons Track should be road legal and risk being pinged by the Police if they don't comply. If we are going to insist that unformed legal roads should be available as 'roads' for 4x4 use, then we also need to recognise that road rules still apply.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:41 pm
by xj
So dont have a loss of traction either or you risk being convicted under "boy racer" legislation ..... yeah right, good one.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:20 pm
by mudlva
guys lets not look at whether thomos is a road or what ever, we dont need any coppers going for a wonder due to conversations on a web site (know what i mean)

lets just quitely encourage those in the know council wise to quitely contract a digger to wonder up there and clear the slip

quitely quitely softly softly :wink:

so we can get back up there :D

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:34 pm
by xj
mudlva wrote:guys lets not look at whether thomos is a road or what ever, we dont need any coppers going for a wonder due to conversations on a web site (know what i mean)

lets just quitely encourage those in the know council wise to quitely contract a digger to wonder up there and clear the slip

quitely quitely softly softly :wink:

so we can get back up there :D


Quite correct. Well said. And as I earlier posted, a digger is already sorted to have a crack at fixing it.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:41 pm
by Mudde1
Madaz wrote:
Mudde1 wrote:
coxsy wrote:, :D

All vehicles on Thompsons track need to be fully road legal (and pay road user charges) except when it is closed. in which case any authorized vehicle, road legal or not can use it, if authorized by the road controlling authority. no different to the motorway.


Dont quite understand what your trying to say?
Half the vechicles that use the track wouldnt be road legal?

Thats probably not far from the truth. All I am saying is that Thompsons is a road, and all vehicles using it should be road legal. in theory, if you are parked on the track, a parking warden could give you a ticket for no rego. is it likely to happen? I would say highly unlikely.
in regards to fines for loss of traction, the offense is deliberate loss of traction, I would have thought to prove that offense by a 4x4 on thompsons track would be very difficult. Most of the vehicles would be doing all they could to maintain traction, otherwise they would be in 2wd and on road tires.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:18 am
by vinceparts
youre all wasting your time talking about this...

unless thats what you wanna be doing...

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:10 pm
by Beer_Cruiser
vinceparts wrote:youre all wasting your time talking about this...

unless thats what you wanna be doing...

Well said......

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:24 am
by MATT009
What side of thompsons is the slip? i take it the te aroha side? as the katikati side is prety much a giant slip :P. and is the track "closed" at the moment, Have had a trip planned to go up there this weekend so any more info would be appreciated cheers.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:41 pm
by mudlva
MATT009 wrote:What side of thompsons is the slip? i take it the te aroha side? as the katikati side is prety much a giant slip :P. and is the track "closed" at the moment, Have had a trip planned to go up there this weekend so any more info would be appreciated cheers.



if you were looking at doing the katikati to summit then that is still open :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol: you just will not be able to get down the the te aroha carpark :oops:

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:30 pm
by coxsy
see the photos at the start of this thread :?:

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:11 pm
by Drurban
Seeing as Maratoto is being closed for repairs would it be an Idea that Thompsons track to have a donation box like Martoto/ Stadia, or some kind of online donation??

Just a sugguestion.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:35 pm
by xj
Drurban wrote:Seeing as Maratoto is being closed for repairs would it be an Idea that Thompsons track to have a donation box like Martoto/ Stadia, or some kind of online donation??

Just a sugguestion.


Suggested it years ago. Responses were along the lines that seeing as how the track had to have access maintained anyway to get to the survey peg at the crossroads (the same peg that was mounted on the concrete block, the same block that was AWOL last time I was up there) and hence the matamata-piako ratepayers were paying for it anyway, why do we need to dontate anything. [paraphrasing]

I dropped the matter then. Personally I think that even if we werent to pay, we could sort some more clean up days up there, last one I recall was 3 odd years back that the Cozzie 4 wheelers did. Not necessarily all 4x4ers rubbish that gets left behind, but Ive picked up bourbon and beer bottles following other groups before. Shits me.

Good luck on the suggestion, im for it. Either donation box at the council office in TeAroha, or via internet would be the go, wouldnt leave a box. Might not get as many donating via office box or internet, but better than getting box at gate nicked.

Re: thompsons track

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:40 pm
by bryandc3
Any news on when the work will be carried out? Could be interested in lending a hand if given the chance.