Offroad-Express

Hi guys,

Looking at setting up my terrano a bit better for mild off roading, hunting etc.

Its our only vehicle and I cant get too carried away (used to have a zuk that spent more time in the shed getting fixed after Id been off road than it did getting driven...)

What I was wondering is whether I could fit a set of 31" mud tires (spare set) without a suspension lift etc, would there be many problems? I was also thinking about getting one of those calmini idler arm braces, what do you think?

Id like to fit a couple of tow hooks and have enough stuff with me to do self recovery, was thinking a high lift jack/ winch kit just in case. On a side note - I have no front protection bar, anyone know where I could get a good steel one from? or how much It would cost to make?

Basicaly I want to be able to go out knowing that I can be resonably carefull and still have something that the wife can drive without getting fixed all the time

Cheers

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31's no problem to fit without doing any lifts.
I have a Snake Racing (same as Calmini) idler brace complete with mount modification, for sale if you want it?
May have to get a front bar made as there are very few around on the second hand market.

Cheers,

what year etc is the terrano? and location? makes it easier to under stand what advice we should give you etc,

sorry about that,

its a 1992 2.7 turbo and i'm from Taumarunui.

Any one got an idea what a front bar would cost to build? nothing flash no winch mount or anything, just to stop head lights and things getting dinged. and to mount some tow hooks.

whats the general view on those idler arm braces? worth while?

first question.....does it have air bags.

If the answer is yes, then you will need to hunt down the older D22 nivara bull bar made by ARB or similar as these were mass produced and crash tested to ANZS standards in other words the new zealand government says they are safe to be fitted to a SRS vehicle on new zealand roads.

If no then you can pretty much fit anything you can get your hands on that suits the purpose.

The reason it is so hard to find off road gear for these as the NZ government takes most of its road regulations from the australians. and the mistral was never sold new there so the likes of big suppliers like ARB never made gear for them. they were sold new in europe and north america and south africa so look there (ebay etc) for parts

they are grey imports everywhere else and have no factory backing for parts supply etc, if you need parts tell your parts supplier to cross reference it with the navara as it was based on the same chassis

Crash bandicoot wrote:first question.....does it have air bags.

If the answer is yes, then you will need to hunt down the older D22 nivara bull bar made by ARB or similar as these were mass produced and crash tested to ANZS standards in other words the new zealand government says they are safe to be fitted to a SRS vehicle on new zealand roads.

If no then you can pretty much fit anything you can get your hands on that suits the purpose.

The reason it is so hard to find off road gear for these as the NZ government takes most of its road regulations from the australians. and the mistral was never sold new there so the likes of big suppliers like ARB never made gear for them. they were sold new in europe and north america and south africa so look there (ebay etc) for parts

they are grey imports everywhere else and have no factory backing for parts supply etc, if you need parts tell your parts supplier to cross reference it with the navara as it was based on the same chassis

1992 terrano....
it aint a mistral so no airbags

keithal wrote:

Crash bandicoot wrote:first question.....does it have air bags.

If the answer is yes, then you will need to hunt down the older D22 nivara bull bar made by ARB or similar as these were mass produced and crash tested to ANZS standards in other words the new zealand government says they are safe to be fitted to a SRS vehicle on new zealand roads.

If no then you can pretty much fit anything you can get your hands on that suits the purpose.

The reason it is so hard to find off road gear for these as the NZ government takes most of its road regulations from the australians. and the mistral was never sold new there so the likes of big suppliers like ARB never made gear for them. they were sold new in europe and north america and south africa so look there (ebay etc) for parts

they are grey imports everywhere else and have no factory backing for parts supply etc, if you need parts tell your parts supplier to cross reference it with the navara as it was based on the same chassis

1992 terrano....
it aint a mistral so no airbags

go hard as long as no forward protruding metal work has a radius of less then 6 ml it will pass a wof, use the oem chassi mounts if ya can

cowman wrote:
whats the general view on those idler arm braces? worth while?

If ya don't get sabian's one I can make these up for lots less than the calmini one's if ya want one.
They're a bit of a necessity if you wind the suspension up and go offroad, the idler doesn't like being pushed up by the steering....it bends fairly easy.
It is not too hard to make something yourself if you're handy with a welder....

Last week I got a set of 31/10.5 AT's on the standard rims on my '92 Terrano with no lift. Took it for a drive up a river on sunday and never got any rub at all front or rear . It was pretty tight at the rear though (not at full artic) so I've got a body lift waiting to go in sometime soon which will require cert but it means I can run my 31's and not put strain on the steering. Your 31's will fit no worries. An idler arm brace will be my next purchase as I've heard and seen that they are a must.

My terrano with 31inch maxxis on it rubbed when it had no lift and steering was turned (not full), even once i did 2inch suspension lift my front wheel still clipped the very front of the guard when turning sharp into driveways ect (slight compression) but that may of been due to my offset i was told it was the correct one but i dont believe it was as they stick out quite far...the torsion bars sag over time which you might want to just have a quick wind up and get wheel alignment done, also if your tyre sits out side the guard make some cheap flares up dont run the risk i did and i ended up getting green stickered

31" tyres were an OEM option on the SE model, you'll be able to fit 31" muds with no rubbing/no flares/no lift if you get some factory Lego alloys, they're 0 offset (search for an image).

The easiest way to prevent failure of front suspension components off road is to just leave it alone! Dont crank the torsion bars - At factory geometry it is very durable. Just make sure the CV boots are ok and grease everything up.

Idler arm brace is a good easy cheap mod, but if you are running 31's at standard height, and drive responsibly, you'll more than likely be ok.

If your truck is an automatic, get the trans cooler oil lines flushed out and thoroughly cleaned. They're not a shitty gearbox like everyone says - its just the cooling lines clog up over time and cause premature failure. Similar story with the manual trans.

Just though I would dredge this up as I wouldnt mind getting a new set of rims and tyres for my new terrano, can someone tell me what I can do with a terrano with flares but not lifted at all? can I run larger than 31x10.5r15? can I run a wider rim? I am thinking of getting some D windows in 15x8 but not sure what offset

This car is my daily so most of the K's will be done on the road, but occasional offroad out at muriwai maybe a bit more around ruapehu. I have read that the Maxxis Buckshot is quite a good tyre, also the RT03 Hankook looks pretty cool

heres a pic of my truck off the auction



I am pretty keen to run these rims

http://www.jegs.com/i/Cragar/260/342-58 ... ProductId=


edit: the Kuhmo KL71's look pretty sweet and are a reasonable price

Cool, a post '89 3-door, thats some sweet JDM sh%t!

If you went to 16" rims you may be able to run a 235/85 AT without any lift - thats 32x10.

Otherwise those brands Maxxis etc don't do a road friendly tall and skinny which the vehicle is suited to.

Some 31x10.5 BFG MTs (or a similar true 31") would fill the guards out nicely, bolt straight on.

Limits of a standard terrano...

There are none, they are awesome enough just as they are, perfectly jizz-worthy.
Front ends are wicked, wiperblades are second to none, and cool smooth lines to boot..... why mess with perfection? (and all the cool kids drive em too)

4by4 wrote:

Limits of a standard terrano...

and cool smooth lines to boot..... why mess with perfection? (and all the cool kids drive em too)

thats the water level mark, dont go any higher....

4by4 wrote:

Limits of a standard terrano...

There are none, they are awesome enough just as they are, perfectly jizz-worthy.
Front ends are wicked, wiperblades are second to none, and cool smooth lines to boot..... why mess with perfection? (and all the cool kids drive em too)

Uh oh this guy may be pissy because he threw tens of thousands into a shiny modern vehicle that doesn't go as a well equipped WD21. Or Toyota 4Runner of the same vintage as a matter of fact - Check and Mate thankyou very much

just one of those things that you dont get till your a terrano owner eh?

Dirtydog wrote:just one of those things that you dont get till your a terrano owner eh?

LIKE

lax2wlg wrote:Uh oh this guy may be pissy because he threw tens of thousands into a shiny modern vehicle that doesn't go as a well equipped WD21. Or Toyota 4Runner of the same vintage as a matter of fact - Check and Mate thankyou very much

1)
By stating "a matter of fact" you imply that you actually have a "fact", which you don't have any of in your discourse. You only have guesswork or assumption, possibly reflected from your own transferred insecurities.
2)
As with the above "fact", "check and mate" can only be applied to the game of chess you think you may be playing. If the game is not chess, you're victorious closing statement is moot as the FACT is, there's no game of chess.


And to clarify your (false) supposition, my three trucks are all of a minimum two decade vintage... there's a FACT for you.

Nothing wrong with Terranos or any other breed of carriage, if they're what tickle you then enjoy. They don't tickle me overly much.

As far as limits are concerned, Ive seen them go places I never thought they'd get near, then Ive seen them get stuck in a 6 inch hole. You know what the true limit is.........???? The driver.

4by4 wrote:

As far as limits are concerned, Ive seen them go places I never thought they'd get near, then Ive seen them get stuck in a 6 inch hole. You know what the true limit is.........???? The driver.

That has got to be the biggest amount of truth there.

look at silbainmud and the places he goes compared to say... me?

Yeah Im not sure how simon get to some of those places and even more so back

Dirtydog wrote:look at silbainmud and the places he goes compared to say... me?

That's 'cause his truck is finished and useable.

4by4 wrote:By stating "a matter of fact" you imply that you actually have a "fact", which you don't have any of in your discourse. You only have guesswork or assumption, possibly reflected from your own transferred insecurities.
2)
As with the above "fact", "check and mate" can only be applied to the game of chess you think you may be playing. If the game is not chess, you're victorious closing statement is moot as the FACT is, there's no game of chess.


And to clarify your (false) supposition, my three trucks are all of a minimum two decade vintage... there's a FACT for you.

Now I have no idea what you are talking about, but please dont be one of those annoying internet warriors who uses numerical checklists and big words like its some sort of political debate. And please don't use the jerkoff emoticon back at me, I used it first! Find your own emoticon!

zukmeista wrote:

Dirtydog wrote:look at silbainmud and the places he goes compared to say... me?

That's 'cause his truck is finished and useable.

i was talking about my confidence, even when it was going i wouldnt dream of going places like that.

old internet politics huh

so wheres a good place to get some KL71's

Im out,