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Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spotter
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:02 pm
by TJ
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:07 pm
by rokhound
Must be a jeep thing.....
Who on earth would let a farkwit do your spotting (other than that clown obviously).
He got everything he deserved.

Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:12 pm
by TJ
I agree. If the driver is not comfortable, just stop.
Amazing that nobody else stepped in to stop this. Crazy line to take.
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:14 pm
by skid
rokhound wrote:Must be a jeep thing.....
Who on earth would let a farkwit do your spotting (other than that clown obviously).
He got everything he deserved.

yup spot on Rok, way back at about the 20 second mark I would of stopped listening to her as you could see she was sending him in to a dicey situation
love the first comment on the youtube page
and then she sits down and has a little cry at the end
must be far too much free cash floating round in the states looking at where they take their nice new shiny jeeps, I think I need to be stateside

Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:02 pm
by TJ
Jeeps are so much cheaper stateside.
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:21 pm
by mudlva
perfectly good way in converting to a full bush truck

Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:36 pm
by 007
The next truck using same spotter, he must of had balls of steel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_xSkqw ... ata_playerJeeps are only USD $29'999 for a rubicon, dam taxes
http://www.jeep.com/en/
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:46 pm
by skid
where the fcuk are they trying to go
they seem to be going along the same lines of putting your truck on the edge of tipping over
I'm sure theres a whole bunch of better lines you could take to get to the same spot
even that second driver had an ass pucker moment as he grabbed the hand grip above his head and clenched his butt together

Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:56 pm
by TJ
Hey Skid, you can see the Ruby parked with hood up on the bottom with minimal damage on the left side.
Here is another video from a different angle of the Ruby rollover. Interesting recovery at the end as well. Nothing really stopping it from rolling backwards if the brakes/gear didn't hold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=C5YFMSoEoM0
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:04 pm
by TJ
Another one by the same guys at the same trip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfEBZF0kvSY&feature=bf_next&list=ULEu_xSkqwmMUReminds me of the muppets thread and video.
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:36 pm
by TJ
Jeep JK Unlimited Ruby = NZD 60,990
Jeep JK Ruby = NZD 55,990
At current exchange rate plus
15% GST, that USD 30k is about NZD 43k. At the moment Jeep in US is offering around USD2k/3k as incentives (discounts), which makes it around NZD 40k even. A premium of NZD 16k+ is a bit over the top, in my opinion. Oh well, its a Jeep thing.
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:16 pm
by 007
They do a rhd jeep in the US for the postal service. Thinking
This is what they tried to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M35EylUu ... ata_player
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:57 pm
by TJ
007 wrote:They do a rhd jeep in the US for the postal service. Thinking
Only Sport models, not Ruby. I considered it when TJ Unlimited Ruby came out and was not offered to export countries. I think biggest problem would be warranty issues. There is a dealer who specialises in Postal Jeep:
http://www.postalpete.com/it/
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:36 am
by pruggerdore
Think they were all out of there depth. too much money , lack of experience. the bit that annoyed me was when the guy in the silver one that went over backward someone say " good job" which kind of says as a group they shouldnt of been there. like too think when we out doing dodgy shit you can at least be sure everyone has got your back. even if we all do like too see a good roll overs. on a trip theres always trucks that are ok to roll and others you just dont. 20 grand road goers you dont. dicks
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:31 am
by skid
pruggerdore wrote:Think they were all out of there depth. too much money , lack of experience. the bit that annoyed me was when the guy in the silver one that went over backward someone say " good job" which kind of says as a group they shouldnt of been there. like too think when we out doing dodgy shit you can at least be sure everyone has got your back. even if we all do like too see a good roll overs. on a trip theres always trucks that are ok to roll and others you just dont. 20 grand road goers you dont. dicks
I'm with you there dude
At the end of the original vid that was posted I couldn't believe how many folks just stood around, some casually wandered over to chat with the driver, but nobody raced off and got a truck or a winch and started a recovery operation.
If I rolled like that, I'm fairly sure I'd want my rig back on its wheels super quick so as not to wreck the engine among other things

Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:28 pm
by Pedro
skid wrote:pruggerdore wrote:Think they were all out of there depth. too much money , lack of experience. the bit that annoyed me was when the guy in the silver one that went over backward someone say " good job" which kind of says as a group they shouldnt of been there. like too think when we out doing dodgy shit you can at least be sure everyone has got your back. even if we all do like too see a good roll overs. on a trip theres always trucks that are ok to roll and others you just dont. 20 grand road goers you dont. dicks
I'm with you there dude
At the end of the original vid that was posted I couldn't believe how many folks just stood around, some casually wandered over to chat with the driver, but nobody raced off and got a truck or a winch and started a recovery operation.
If I rolled like that, I'm fairly sure I'd want my rig back on its wheels super quick so as not to wreck the engine among other things

you don't roll trucks skid you drown'em !!!
pedro
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:19 pm
by skid
Pedro wrote:
you don't roll trucks skid you drown'em !!!
pedro
you are correct, I leave the rolling side of things up to you

Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:27 am
by NJV6
Awesome, thats normal for Moab. And yes that is the line she was wanting him to take, its the track!
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:40 pm
by pruggerdore
NJV6 wrote:Awesome, thats normal for Moab. And yes that is the line she was wanting him to take, its the track!
Yea could see what she was trying to do but his wheel base was too long too get that back left wheel up before the front made him roll. could see it a mile off. next guy made it with the shorter wheel base. we all live and learn including who in the group to let guide you
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:49 pm
by rangimotors
driver also didn't listen to her and hold it hard lock (would of been an ass puckering feeling to do) if he held it hard lock turning into the roll it would of been less likely to happen. You'll see he feels it slipping and trys to counter it but straightening his wheel a bit.
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:01 pm
by TJ
pruggerdore wrote:Yea could see what she was trying to do but his wheel base was too long too get that back left wheel up before the front made him roll. could see it a mile off. next guy made it with the shorter wheel base. we all live and learn including who in the group to let guide you
The second one behind also had leaf springs (its a CJ8) versus all coils on a JK probably with disconnected sway bar upfront. CJ8 would have been more stable regardless of the wheelbase when the weight shifted onto one side for both.
Re: Whats worse than a back seat driver, an idiot for a spot
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:42 pm
by pruggerdore
TJ wrote:pruggerdore wrote:Yea could see what she was trying to do but his wheel base was too long too get that back left wheel up before the front made him roll. could see it a mile off. next guy made it with the shorter wheel base. we all live and learn including who in the group to let guide you
The second one behind also had leaf springs (its a CJ8) versus all coils on a JK probably with disconnected sway bar upfront. CJ8 would have been more stable regardless of the wheelbase when the weight shifted onto one side for both.
lol for sure thats why my lux is still on leaves. sorry dont know one jeep from another yet. learning tho