Securing a trailer queen to the trailer

[3VILC]

About to go down this road rather than trying to keep a mud hack road legal. Did a search but didn't come up with anything unless I wasn't using the right wording.
What do people find is the best method for anchoring the truck to the trailer? I have read alsorts or different ways, some say pull the suspension down, others say secure the axles only and let the trucks suspension absorb the bouncing. Some say ratchet straps/strops, others say chains and twitches. I have carted machinery on trucks before, but this has no suspension so the general rule is pull the chains up tight as f***.
What are others thoughts on this, want to sus out a plan before I start welding anchor points into the trailer

[rokhound]

Pull the suspension as tight as you can. A trailer queen with pliant suspension could go quite possibly throw the COG out and tip the rig and trailer over. I know for a fact that my tow wagon and trailer can go around a corner at least twice as fast as I would try and do it in the mutt, but if the rig on the back is cycling up it's suspension there is a chance it will want to tip over and take the trailer with it if it is bad enough.
Just remove the ability for this to happen. I also use strops as you can only pull the suspension down so far, and a decent bump can see it bottom out completely which makes the fixings go loose for a split second. You need to factor this in and allow for it, and a strop has a small amount of give when taking the weight again. Chain doesn't have that, so it can really hard on things.

[Dirtydog]

maybe to be safe strop the axles aswell, so when if it does bottom out there is still something to stop it rolling around.

[skid]

lol

you are gonna get lots of different answers here

I am the opposite to Rok and have always tried to tie vehicle down via the axles or wheels and let suspension bounce freely

In saying that I have never towed a flexy rig like the ones Rok builds

most of my wagons I've towed have been leaf sprung cruisers or trials trucks and a few club trucks

never had an issue at all

[passengerpete]

i hold down race cars down with a strop over the wheels that way it stops pulling out the alignment.

but it would be useless for a trailer queen as the body still moves around with floppy suspension as rockhound was saying. so maybe use as well as chaining down body. or thinking out loud now. could ya get some of those adjustable bump stops and pump em up to stop the suspension altogether maybe.

[mudtroll]

Have welded eyes to the diffs, have chains with hooks on the rear that are permanently attached to eyes thru deck of trailer & use ratchet strops on the front to tension. Have towed long distances with no issues, I don't try to go around corner as fast as perhaps Rokhound does

[Chops4wd]

if the trailer is unsprung i have always just tied the diffs down letting the trucks suspension absorb some of the shock, but if the trailer has springs then ive always tied the body down compressing the suspension. Also always used ratchet straps.

[3VILC]

I was thinking a chain at each corner of the trailer chassis with a lug link on the end hooked onto each recovery hook and tensioned with a good old chain twitch. Have heard of chaining the rear and using the winch to pull tension on from the front but i would imagine you would need a long trailer for that to work well

[rokhound]

There is absolutely no way my rig can come loose on the trailer. In fact I have only ever had 1 truck other than mine that was able to make it onto (and off again) my trailer. And when I say it is a mish to get another truck on, I mean it. If you are not double locked with a minimum of 37" tyres and with a wheel base that falls outside 105-110", you will not get your rig on my trailer.
Anyone who has seen my POS on it's transporter knows exactly what I mean.

If you cross strap your load correctly, it shouldn't move no matter where you strop it down. And as an aside to the comment above, If you think a 90 series Prado with 4" lift on 33.5" tyres is a cornering demon, you are tripping, and you really should share the drugs around

[QUADRACER]

Have towed wind truck all over the South Island , and tie on body as makes drive a lot nicer, and yes have a 2011 ford ranger.
It's the weight that shifts the trailer around on corners.
Just works for me.

[callum007]

You sound like your trying to over complicate it..
Getting it in the right spot on the trailer is more often overlooked than tieing it on.. I only use one strop at each end around the axle.
Rok's mutt is just mildly overweight and flops about, hence it needs a belt.

[skid]

what is the vehicle you are planning on towing

[niblik]

My fawdy needs its body stropped down as it flops around more than an Olympic slow mo replay of Jamaicans in a 100m final..!

As for Vomitron, I secure it by the axles as its suspension is harder than a triple blue pill binged Rocco Seffredi..

Either way you go, depends on your driving manners whilst towing and the rig on the trailer.

[3VILC]

I likely am way over complicating it. I'm a truck driver by trade so I know all about load position and strapping. Trial will tell the best point to load it on the trailer. Just thought I would see how everyone else does it. As to skids comment, at this stage its just an old *N65 series hilux, no massive lift and probably just 31" silverstone extremes when it gets to trailer time, cant quite afford the extra work required to get 33"s or bigger on it at the moment. Picking a body lift wouldn't cut it to go that much bigger.
1 strap each end thru the tow hooks would probably cover it just fine

[GTS]

not sure how it would work on a truck with big suspencion but on our stockcar we have a steel ramp that the front bumper pushes up onto and the ramps slide in under the rear of chassis so when we strop it down there isnt to much extra weight on suspencion and the car is pulled down tight so it cant bounce or move around.I hate the idea of stropping over tyres as we have had tyres that looked fine when we put it on the trailer but were flat when we got home a couple of hrs later