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Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:35 pm
by grytvikken
Just had a situation where my 2.7td would not stop...... turned the key nothing ...unplugged the key nothing had to pull the airbox off and snuff the airflow.
Any ideas ??
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:15 pm
by Dirtydog
Could be a faulty ignition switch, i know mine sometimes would just cut out while trying to start etc, ended up being the switch, otherwise it could be runnaway.
was it gaining revs when doing so? or was it just idling.
also, does it have a turbo timer?
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:20 pm
by grytvikken
Just idled did not gain revs totally unplugged the key switch thought it may be the fuel cut off solenoid?
anyway you can test either the ignition switch or the solenoid.....actually where is the fuel cut off solenoid???
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:44 pm
by sibainmud
Two things come to mind. The run solenoid is stuck in the run position or the alternator regulator is stuffed and causing a back feed to the run circuit.
To stop it, try unplugging the solenoid if it still won't stop tap the fuel pump to try dislodge the the run solenoid. If it dose stop, check for voltage at the solenoid. If there is power there without key on or engine running then it may be the run relay is stuck. If it stopped when disconnected and there is no power at the solenoid wire after the engine stops then it will most likely be the regulator. Get it to do it again, leave key off with engine running and try disconnect the small plug off alternator to confirm regulator fault.
Cheers,
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:50 pm
by lax2wlg
˄˄˄˄ this is the guy you want to be listening to by the way
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:52 pm
by philip121
mine did same it was a relay in my case
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:57 pm
by grytvikken
Thanks sibainmud just have to figure out what you said ....?
lax2wig what relay are you talking about?
Thanks to both of you
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:00 am
by sibainmud
I think the run solenoid is down at the fuse panel under dash.
Cheers,
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:15 am
by grytvikken
Thanks I will have a look tomorrow in the daylight thanks again ....stayed tuned
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:20 am
by lax2wlg
grytvikken wrote:lax2wig what relay are you talking about?
That was philip121, proceed w caution. Sorry mate out of my depth, electrical not a strong point!
What I can tell you, however, is that the voltage regulator is the little barrel thing sitting on top of the alternator which looks like a AAA battery cut in half.
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:25 am
by grytvikken
cheers
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:38 am
by philip121
in my case l took it to a sparky all up cost $56
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:26 am
by sibainmud
lax2wlg wrote:
That was philip121, proceed w caution. Sorry mate out of my depth, electrical not a strong point!
What I can tell you, however, is that the voltage regulator is the little barrel thing sitting on top of the alternator which looks like a AAA battery cut in half.
You're right Josh....not your strong point
The part he just directed you to is the suppressor used to get rid of electrical noise from radios etc.
Voltage regulator is buried inside the body of the alternator.
Best of luck,
Cheers,
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:33 am
by lax2wlg
sibainmud wrote:You're right Josh....not your strong point
The part he just directed you to is the suppressor used to get rid of electrical noise from radios etc.
Voltage regulator is buried inside the body of the alternator.
Aha... stand corrected, sorry if I misled the original poster.
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:41 am
by grytvikken
thanks guys
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:30 pm
by grytvikken
sibainmud wrote:Two things come to mind. The run solenoid is stuck in the run position or the alternator regulator is stuffed and causing a back feed to the run circuit.
To stop it, try unplugging the solenoid if it still won't stop tap the fuel pump to try dislodge the the run solenoid. If it dose stop, check for voltage at the solenoid. If there is power there without key on or engine running then it may be the run relay is stuck. If it stopped when disconnected and there is no power at the solenoid wire after the engine stops then it will most likely be the regulator. Get it to do it again, leave key off with engine running and try disconnect the small plug off alternator to confirm regulator fault.
Cheers,
Any info on ID ing the run solenoid would be great not sure what it is
Also I am assuming that unplugging the ignition key block would eliminate that from being the issue ....is this correct. easter monday great timing
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:36 pm
by Dirtydog
it should kill the circuit.
Something to help out later on if it happens again (and helpfull when 4x4ing) would be to put your own fuel cut switch in, really handy for if you roll over or another emergency,
im looking at doing this on my terrano a bit later (so much on the to do list) as it seems like a good safety measure.
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:11 pm
by sibainmud
grytvikken wrote:Any info on ID ing the run solenoid would be great not sure what it is
Also I am assuming that unplugging the ignition key block would eliminate that from being the issue ....is this correct. easter monday great timing
Unplugging ignition will do jack to this system as far as diagnosis goes.
The run solenoid is the single wire coming from the injection pump to the loom behind battery and power steer pump. One has to wonder if these kind of things need to be clarified then, I say, pay someone to fix it. It may be a bit out of your league.
Cheers,
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:54 pm
by grytvikken
sibainmud wrote:grytvikken wrote:Any info on ID ing the run solenoid would be great not sure what it is
Also I am assuming that unplugging the ignition key block would eliminate that from being the issue ....is this correct. easter monday great timing
Unplugging ignition will do jack to this system as far as diagnosis goes.
The run solenoid is the single wire coming from the injection pump to the loom behind battery and power steer pump. One has to wonder if these kind of things need to be clarified then, I say, pay someone to fix it. It may be a bit out of your league.
That maybe good advice but its easter monday a public holiday and I am 500 k's from home so I thought I would seek some advice. I have never heard of a run solenoid and I admit that electricals are not my strong point but Im not an idiot.
Thanks for your input
Cheers,
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:13 pm
by Dirtydog
hes not trying to call you an idiot, hes trying to say it could be one of those things that could have the truck off the road for a while and it may be easier to put it in a garage.
it could be something simple, it could be something rather complicated.
ateast youl know in the end instead of chasing things that it may not be, and also saving time.
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:02 am
by philip121
I have found for some reson and i see it still goes on is the BIG people PUT DOWN when they ask
we are all not skilled service people thats why we ask
Thing thats cracks me up is the main offenders that enjoy running others down Know sweet bugger all
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:42 pm
by marrco
philip121 wrote:I have found for some reson and i see it still goes on is the BIG people PUT DOWN when they ask
we are all not skilled service people thats why we ask
Thing thats cracks me up is the main offenders that enjoy running others down Know sweet bugger all
Too true, but when someone asks the same question over and over and gets the same answer from half a dozen different people but thinks thats not the answer they're looking for, then of course your'e going to get the piss taken out of you.
Re: Terrano wont stop!
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:00 pm
by slide
I see where confusion has come from. Fuelpump shutoff solenoid vs ignition relay. Could both be called run solenoid. Read Sibainmuds original post, and think of the solenoid on fuelpump.
He has given a very good fault finding method here.
Note that it could be a mechanical or electrical fault causing problem.
Have you got it fixed/ found the problem?
And being away from home on a public holiday with an engine that dont stop, compared to having one that won't go?? Prob nothing to get too stressed about... (did you see 'dangerous roads' where the safari didn't get switched off for four days as it was so cold the diesel would quickly freeze?)
Try not to get jumpy, not everyone has telepathy and knows you're situation.... And a rude responce to someone who gives great mechanical advice, well they might just not be so willing to help next time...
(this not aimed at any poster in particular by the way)