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HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:59 am
by Filmz64
Gidday Guys,
Just wondering where the best place to go for adjustable panhard rods and caster correction bushes, for a 2" lifted VX 80 series.
Unfortunately the guy who did the lift did a half pie job, springs and shocks only!!! :x
I'm in Chch, so somewhere down here would be good.

Cheers

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:19 am
by SamLogan
Go talk to tim at autolign. I know they sell both of those things.

Sam

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:36 pm
by wopass

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:23 pm
by mudlva
is it worth the expense

i have just done a cad drawing and it works out at around a 2.86 degree swing and using a 1m rod length there was no measurable change

i would suspect that it would be similar results for the caster correction bushes

imho

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:31 pm
by 1hamish1
mudlva wrote:is it worth the expense

i have just done a cad drawing and it works out at around a 2.86 degree swing and using a 1m rod length there was no measurable change

i would suspect that it would be similar results for the caster correction bushes

imho



Agree, Ive never needed to use adjustable panhards with only a 2" lift, makes hardly any difference and they are expensive, cool though. Castor correction bushes are a must though because even with only a 2" lift your steering will feel faster than before the lift. Like wopass said, tough dog stuff is good.

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:32 pm
by rokhound
The flip side of the above is that unless you are planning on consistently changing the ride height of your suspension, why chuck money at adjustable panhards? Just make them the correct length for the lift, but if the above is correct, then there is no need to even shag about with that.

Do the axles look like they are offset with the centre line of the truck? (ie is the wheel on one side hanging in or out further than the wheel on the other side)

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:43 pm
by 4WDbits
1hamish1 wrote:
mudlva wrote:is it worth the expense

i have just done a cad drawing and it works out at around a 2.86 degree swing and using a 1m rod length there was no measurable change

i would suspect that it would be similar results for the caster correction bushes

imho



Agree, Ive never needed to use adjustable panhards with only a 2" lift, makes hardly any difference and they are expensive, cool though. Castor correction bushes are a must though because even with only a 2" lift your steering will feel faster than before the lift. Like wopass said, tough dog stuff is good.


Have to use some castor correction and bushes are the easiest.
These are what you want Imagehttp://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=4357

Adjustable panards are nice to have with 2 inch lift, but not necessary.

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:45 pm
by mudlva
my cad program couldn't measure the amount of lateral movement between the two rod positions.
it will be there but it will be more than 3 decimal point places behind the decimal point. know what i mean....(as in 1000.000_ _)

if some body has the length (approx) of the radius/control arms then that to could be worked out as well

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:10 pm
by Filmz64
Cheers for the info.
I got a fulla to check the truck out before I bought it, he told me that the front diff was sitting approx 10-15mm to the right (drivers side) off centre due to the panhard rod being to short, also the rear brake lines are tight and the sway bars are at their limit.

Just to confirm the cert plate says the lift is 635mm front and 650mm rear, which sounds like 2.5' lift to me????

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:01 am
by Filmz64
Just found out that is about a 4' lift, 100mm thats why the panhard rods are to short.

What degree of castor bush do I need?

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 11:27 am
by wjw
Filmz64 wrote:Just found out that is about a 4' lift, 100mm thats why the panhard rods are to short.

What degree of castor bush do I need?


I would recommend getting castor correction plates from ironman if you can stomach $300. The bushes wear out real quick.

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:57 pm
by 4WDbits
wjw wrote:
Filmz64 wrote:Just found out that is about a 4' lift, 100mm thats why the panhard rods are to short.

What degree of castor bush do I need?


I would recommend getting castor correction plates from ironman if you can stomach $300. The bushes wear out real quick.


3.5 degree bushes will barely be enough and restrict articulation leading to them flogging out as wjw said.

Options are replacement radius arms, drop boxes or castor correction plates (cheapest)

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:08 pm
by xj
.... and at 4 inches dont forget about getting it re-certed, and belonging to a club so you can get your special card which says youre allowed to own it/use it/but not sell it to anyone else who doesnt have the superpower card..... (How did it even get certed at 4 inches with no adj panhard, screwed up castor etc and an out of whack front diff??? Wonder if did have and its been removed prior to sale???)

(aww gwon already, someone had to go there....!!!!!! :P :P )

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:30 pm
by Big
xj wrote:.... and at 4 inches dont forget about getting it re-certed, and belonging to a club so you can get your special card which says youre allowed to own it/use it/but not sell it to anyone else who doesnt have the superpower card..... (How did it even get certed at 4 inches with no adj panhard, screwed up castor etc and an out of whack front diff??? Wonder if did have and its been removed prior to sale???)

(aww gwon already, someone had to go there....!!!!!! :P :P )

lol Im hoping for a superpower card and I have about.. but not totally sure 5-6"lift.. and it still not high enough.. :lol: :lol:

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:35 pm
by rokhound
They can't reach me in my POS to give me the card.
I read that we have to give the lycra wankers 1.5mtrs clearance, so I lifted the truck that far so I can run them over........ :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: HDJ81V VX Cruiser adjustable panhard rods

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:38 pm
by Big
rokhound wrote:They can't reach me in my POS to give me the card.
I read that we have to give the lycra wankers 1.5mtrs clearance, so I lifted the truck that far so I can run them over........ :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Priceless.. how things are just soo PC.. I wonder the stats about accidents that happen actually are from modified trucks.. I bet it's less then 2%.. so why all the fuss.. just another form of tax I suspect..
sorry for thread jack :mrgreen: