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VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:39 pm
by kbushnz
Quick question...
Can you bypass the knock sensor as per title.
If so how?

Cheers

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:43 pm
by Crash bandicoot
kbushnz wrote:Quick question...
Can you bypass the knock sensor as per title.
If so how?

Cheers


unplug it?

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:45 pm
by kbushnz
Nah it stuffs up the timing....
And the ecu throws a fit

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:46 pm
by jervisad
take the bulb out??

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:46 pm
by Pedro
kbushnz wrote:Nah it stuffs up the timing....
And the ecu throws a fit


unscrew it from the block and isolate from the block, leave plugged in

pedro

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:49 pm
by kbushnz
Pedro wrote:
kbushnz wrote:Nah it stuffs up the timing....
And the ecu throws a fit


unscrew it from the block and isolate from the block, leave plugged in

pedro


Yup that would be nice, but it triggers when the truck hits things... :lol:
And the engine wont run after that....

Have read on other forums for other vehicles that they have used a resistor in its place...
But can't find anything regarding the 3.8 VN

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:57 pm
by Pedro
kbushnz wrote:
Pedro wrote:
kbushnz wrote:Nah it stuffs up the timing....
And the ecu throws a fit


unscrew it from the block and isolate from the block, leave plugged in

pedro


Yup that would be nice, but it triggers when the truck hits things... :lol:
And the engine wont run after that....

Have read on other forums for other vehicles that they have used a resistor in its place...
But can't find anything regarding the 3.8 VN


i would say it not the knock sensor being the issue, if it senses knock it retards the timing a few degrees, then brings it back in, if the motor is stopping or running real rough then something else is crook.

pedro

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:01 pm
by Crash bandicoot
kbushnz wrote:Nah it stuffs up the timing....
And the ecu throws a fit



Okay to be specific and explain how these things work, If its sends anymore then 3 volts to the ecu it throws the R&R. No reading same thing.

depending on the year it can be down with a 3900 Ohm resistor or a transducer


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wire the red wire to the ecu signal wire and the negative to a good ground. move it around the engine (tape it to the fuel rail for example) till it stops tripping R&R.

IF you are savy with programming ecu's you can stop the ecu from doing a start up system check including the knock sensor, then you can leave it unplugged..

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:09 pm
by kbushnz
Sweet thats food for thought.... :mrgreen:
Not sure if the sensor is getting old...
But basically we hit a tree.. Not too hard :lol:
The truck was still running, negotiated around it then turned it off to have a peek for any damage...
Went to start it again... Cough fart pop back fire....
Did the looksie under the hood and wiggled a few wires...

Ended up towing it out and putting it on the trailer...
After the owner talked to a few people... Pulled plug out of sensor and put it back in again...]
Fired first time and ran sweet....

Go fig...

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:06 pm
by toysuzi
Put another nock sensor on maybe
I have never had a problem had a lot of big nocks

Re: VN 3.8 Knock Sensor Bypass

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:10 pm
by kbushnz
toysuzi wrote:99% sure thay do not have one
Can u take a pic of what you unpluged


Its been sorted now... Old sensor was on the way out (original one)
Now has a newer one ...
Was sending erroneous readings to ECU...