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Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:30 pm
by BogBoy
Ok so had a search and I see this has been covered alot in the past

I have a small problem that I am running a 2wd center link that has no mounting bracket on it all.

I also cant see some were to mount it on the chassis. :cry:

I was talking to toms offroad customs and he said it might have one factory but might not. I dont want to have to get one welded on as that would mean cert........

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:00 pm
by nismo26
Get a bolt on mount for the centre link.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:23 pm
by BogBoy
nismo26 wrote:Get a bolt on mount for the centre link.


And saying that is as much use as telling me to run around three times then clap my hands :roll:

What sort? Brand? Were to look?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:31 pm
by nismo26
BogBoy wrote:
nismo26 wrote:Get a bolt on mount for the centre link.


What sort? Brand? Were to look?


Any that will fit something like this would be easy to make, I think you can get the Ubolts from Blacks, If you give me some measurements I can make one at work.

http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=60

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:36 pm
by Dirtydog
shouldnt cost alot to get one made up, 2 u bolts and some small bits of plate metal, couple of holes drilled. would take a good engineer maybe 5 minutes to make.

as for the chassis mount, you may be able to get something made to bolt onto where the idler arm is bolted to chassis, but on the inside of chassis.

Heres a pic of close to what i mean:
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EDIT:

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This is what ya want

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:40 pm
by BogBoy
Dirtydog wrote:shouldnt cost alot to get one made up, 2 u bolts and some small bits of plate metal, couple of holes drilled. would take a good engineer maybe 5 minutes to make.

as for the chassis mount, you may be able to get something made to bolt onto where the idler arm is bolted to chassis, but on the inside of chassis.

Heres a pic of close to what i mean:
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ive seen bolt on ones before but cant remember where, probably a U.S site.


Wicked. Can that spot still be used when I change it to a 2nd steering box type?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:51 pm
by slide
Had a bit of a search, moog part#DS1061 /ACDELCO part#45B1081 looks like
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And the factory 4x4 steering system (lhd in pic) shown with steering damper. Damper pin bolts to chassis near bolts that hold idler arm (mounts to inner of chassis). Pin can be ordered through Nissan, or you might find a secondhand one somewhere. Its shown clearly in dirtydogs pic above in LHD format, so yea, would fit with steering box idler
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Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:37 pm
by BogBoy
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Does any one know were to get one of these?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:20 pm
by Dirtydog
probably cheaper to make one,

two u bolts and a bit of angle/flat bar bent to shape with a couple of holes drilled.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:20 pm
by zukmeista
Seeing as it hasn't been mentioned, the return to center spring loaded steering dampers are a waste of time. You will be better off to just buy a normal damper.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:02 pm
by BogBoy
Dirtydog wrote:probably cheaper to make one,

two u bolts and a bit of angle/flat bar bent to shape with a couple of holes drilled.



I was thinking that but how would it be for wofs?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:55 pm
by Dirtydog
aslong as your not applying heat or modifying chassis mounts etc you should be allright.

if you make use of the idler arm mounting bolts (even if you have to buy longer ones) and just bend up a peice of flat or even a piece of angle.

Best bet would be to chat to who does you warrants though as theyre the one that makes the decision in the end.

Also im interested in something, can you use standard shocks (as in the ones that dont extend by them selves) for a steering dampener?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:33 pm
by BogBoy
Dirtydog wrote:aslong as your not applying heat or modifying chassis mounts etc you should be allright.

if you make use of the idler arm mounting bolts (even if you have to buy longer ones) and just bend up a peice of flat or even a piece of angle.

Best bet would be to chat to who does you warrants though as theyre the one that makes the decision in the end.

Also im interested in something, can you use standard shocks (as in the ones that dont extend by them selves) for a steering dampener?


Ahhh sweet

Hmmm Im not sure about the standard shock use? I brought a "damper" to be on the safe side.

The new damper pin I have coming from japan uses the factory holes but only with a idler.... Fingers crossed it wont need a mod when fitting the 2nd steering box.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:23 pm
by Dirtydog
with the dummy box you use the same bolt holes anyway im preetty sure, might have to look that up though, so wouldnt change much.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:57 pm
by BogBoy
Dirtydog wrote:with the dummy box you use the same bolt holes anyway im preetty sure, might have to look that up though, so wouldnt change much.


Yea think that might be the case with only one needing to be drilled out hence using the larger washers?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:25 pm
by poss682
where did you get the damper pin from in japan

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:31 pm
by Ralfie
zukmeista wrote:Seeing as it hasn't been mentioned, the return to center spring loaded steering dampers are a waste of time. You will be better off to just buy a normal damper.


Care to justify the reasoning behind that statement?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:40 pm
by zukmeista
Ralfie wrote:
zukmeista wrote:Seeing as it hasn't been mentioned, the return to center spring loaded steering dampers are a waste of time. You will be better off to just buy a normal damper.


Care to justify the reasoning behind that statement?

What is the point of a spring? All it does is push the steering back to the straight ahead position which would be a nuisance offroad, as if you need more resistance when you're trying to turn the steering wheel :roll:

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:24 pm
by Smurf
zukmeista wrote:
Ralfie wrote:
zukmeista wrote:Seeing as it hasn't been mentioned, the return to center spring loaded steering dampers are a waste of time. You will be better off to just buy a normal damper.


Care to justify the reasoning behind that statement?

What is the point of a spring? All it does is push the steering back to the straight ahead position which would be a nuisance offroad, as if you need more resistance when you're trying to turn the steering wheel :roll:


Ever used one?
I have, liked it a lot, will be fitting another.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:33 pm
by GotFlex
I had one of the RTC on my truck was awesome on the road and even better offroad

That bracket you guys are chasing can be bought from opposite lock here in aus, but it's a proper clamp style with 3 cap screws about $20aud

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:39 am
by lax2wlg
I dont really see the point of a steering damper in terms of prolonging steering component life. I get that it reduces the vibration/shock felt at the wheel, but as I see it, by the time any shock force has reached the damper, it has to have travelled through the tie-rod and one end of the center link first.

But it feels nice.

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:08 pm
by BogBoy
poss682 wrote:where did you get the damper pin from in japan


Nissan in japan.... :D

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:08 pm
by poss682
do you have any part numbers or any info that would help me buy one who did you contact, crockam nissan?

Re: Steering Damper or RTC D21

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:34 pm
by BogBoy
poss682 wrote:do you have any part numbers or any info that would help me buy one who did you contact, crockam nissan?



Yep Cockam Nissan.

Part number is 4861231G00

10 working day delivery

$42.26 including GST