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Steering feels loose..

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:41 pm
by a80crewza
Steering on my 80 feels loose :shock: What can I check for to see if i'm over reacting or if there is actually a problem??

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:15 pm
by kbushnz
Have a good look at the steering box attachments to chassis. The 80 has a habit of cracking the chassis.
Also there is an adjuster on the steering box you can adjust to take out any backlash in the box.

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:22 pm
by a80crewza
The steering just feels light. Steering wheel feels like its got more play in it that usual. It still drives straight, corners fine. It just seems to mildly jerk when i go over pot holes and if the road is on an angle it veers to on one side, but not by much.. How do you adjust the power steering box?

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:48 pm
by kbushnz
Has it been lifted recently? Castor could be out...
Or your steering dampener is shot. Or the panhard bushes are on the way out...

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:01 pm
by a80crewza
Yes, but only a 2 inch lift though. Yeah could be dampener as its still factory? How do you fix castor?

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:29 pm
by kbushnz
Probably castor is out a bit... Will make it feel light in the steering department and also prone to bump steer.
Castor correction bushes will do the trick...
Plenty of info on the forum... Search is your friend.

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:23 pm
by Danjr
Check the nuts are tight on the 4 studs coming out under the front left hand hub - kingpin nuts. These work lose on lifted trucks after a bit of off-roading

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:46 am
by a80crewza
kbushnz wrote:Probably castor is out a bit... Will make it feel light in the steering department and also prone to bump steer.
Castor correction bushes will do the trick...
Plenty of info on the forum... Search is your friend.


Is this what i would need to solve the problem?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =641385891

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:37 am
by skid
Danjr wrote:Check the nuts are tight on the 4 studs coming out under the front left hand hub - kingpin nuts. These work lose on lifted trucks after a bit of off-roading


what he said

and dont piss around, I dont care if the weather is shite outside, go and check immediately

have had this happen to me and seen it on others 80s as well

in my case, of the 4 bolts that were supposed to be there, 2 had snapped off, 1 had disappeared all together and the last one was halfway out, so go check them now :shock: :shock:

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:12 am
by kbushnz
luxsurf wrote:
kbushnz wrote:Probably castor is out a bit... Will make it feel light in the steering department and also prone to bump steer.
Castor correction bushes will do the trick...
Plenty of info on the forum... Search is your friend.


Is this what i would need to solve the problem?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =641385891


They are correction bushes, however you need to check everything else that others have suggested before committing to them. (no need to waste money)
A wheel alignment would pick it out.

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:28 am
by mudlva
skid wrote:
Danjr wrote:Check the nuts are tight on the 4 studs coming out under the front left hand hub - kingpin nuts. These work lose on lifted trucks after a bit of off-roading


what he said

and dont piss around, I dont care if the weather is shite outside, go and check immediately

have had this happen to me and seen it on others 80s as well

in my case, of the 4 bolts that were supposed to be there, 2 had snapped off, 1 had disappeared all together
and the last one was halfway out, so go check them now :shock: :shock:


Do as Skid has said. Go check those bolts.
A mates 80 had the hub just about ripped off when those bolts finally failed. He was very luck as two minutes earlier he had been doing 100k on the back roads

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:38 am
by a80crewza
skid wrote:
Danjr wrote:Check the nuts are tight on the 4 studs coming out under the front left hand hub - kingpin nuts. These work lose on lifted trucks after a bit of off-roading


what he said

and dont piss around, I dont care if the weather is shite outside, go and check immediately

have had this happen to me and seen it on others 80s as well

in my case, of the 4 bolts that were supposed to be there, 2 had snapped off, 1 had disappeared all together and the last one was halfway out, so go check them now :shock: :shock:


Are the kingpin nuts these ones at the very bottom of this photo? > http://gearingdynamics.com.au/picsmay05/withoutboot.jpg

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:53 am
by kbushnz
luxsurf wrote:
skid wrote:
Danjr wrote:Check the nuts are tight on the 4 studs coming out under the front left hand hub - kingpin nuts. These work lose on lifted trucks after a bit of off-roading


what he said

and dont piss around, I dont care if the weather is shite outside, go and check immediately

have had this happen to me and seen it on others 80s as well

in my case, of the 4 bolts that were supposed to be there, 2 had snapped off, 1 had disappeared all together and the last one was halfway out, so go check them now :shock: :shock:


Are the kingpin nuts these ones at the very bottom of this photo? > http://gearingdynamics.com.au/picsmay05/withoutboot.jpg


Yes
Top and bottom...of the swivel hub.
4 on top and 4 on bottom.

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:18 pm
by a80crewza
Yes
Top and bottom...of the swivel hub.
4 on top and 4 on bottom.[/quote]

Checked the four on the bottom and the two on the top of both hubs, checked all the bolts and nuts and they were all good. Checked the chassis for cracks around the steering box and nothing there either. So I guess I'll just book truck in to get an alignment, then go from there.

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:49 pm
by skid
get a bar and check all bushes etc associated with front end and probably check the wheel bearings for play as well

may as well check everything you can

if nothing shows up and you go for a whell alignment, make sure it goes to a reputable place that has a good history of doing good wheel alignments :wink:

Re: Steering feels loose..

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:13 pm
by a80crewza
skid wrote:get a bar and check all bushes etc associated with front end and probably check the wheel bearings for play as well

may as well check everything you can

if nothing shows up and you go for a whell alignment, make sure it goes to a reputable place that has a good history of doing good wheel alignments :wink:


Yup will check all that out. Could the type of power steering fluid influence the light steering at all?