help me!!!!!!! i confused

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:13 pm

i dont no wat the problem is!!!!!
went out 4wd llast sunday arvo, got into a mud hole. while getting pulled out i hooked reverse and i lost all drive to my wheels. got towed home by kaney. couple times ive started it up and tried to drive it but ive had nothin. in 4 low i get a tiny bit of drive and i mean like 1 meter an hour. so i thought clutch maybe issue. dropped it out today and clutch is fine plenty of meat an no damage at all. wat else could it be???????? gearbox as far as i no is fine like it neva made a crunch or any other noises.someone help me. i cant explain.
cheers

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:17 pm

Are you sure the clutch is engaging?

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:19 pm

i could see the slave cylinder push the fork in

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:24 pm

If your getting any drive at all, I would have thought it would have to be the clutch

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:26 pm

i could move it a meter or so in 4 low wit someone givin me a push. that all i the drive i had. clutch is fine. im stumped. its a mu

klompy · Post by **klompy** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:32 pm

Make sure mud,small stones and sticks hav'nt flung out in your pressure plate stopping release fingers from returning to clamping position.Had this happen to me once. :oops:

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:35 pm

there is a little bit of mud an shit but not enough i dont think to be the prob

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:41 pm

Isuzu's don't come with dual mass flywheels do they?

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:42 pm

now ya lost me. i have no idea wat ya mean

red-devil · Post by **red-devil** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:46 pm

can you remove the fork and check thats it's not bent and that the springs are workig on it to help close the the plate up against the flywheel.

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:50 pm

Toyota surfs had 2 piece flywheels, with rubber connecting the 2 together (I think). This was to stop vibrations from the diesel motors, but the rubber between would strip, allowing one side of the flywheel to drive but, but the 2nd wouldn't.

I'd keep checking around the clutch though.

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:50 pm

i havent checked that yet.will do tho

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:50 pm

mine jus a one piecer

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:27 pm

still no go aye. that sux. it did loose drive in the first hole and then once he was out he was driving fine and he didnt completely loose drive until in a deeper hole further from home (murphys law aye).

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:37 pm

still no go mate. not sure wat my next move is really

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:52 pm

so when you got it home, you were in 2h, you put it in first and let the clutch out, and i did nothing? no drop in revs, no movement, just sat there as if nothing had hppened?
did the clutch pedal feel any differant? did it still have clutch feel to it?

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:55 pm

yeah mate not a thing. tried evey gear. clutch felt normal.

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:07 pm

and if you reved it it was like it was in neutral?

i reckon you got some crap in your clutch somwhere.

id give all the clutch parts a huge cleanout then put them back in and try it again.

but im no mechanic so i could be wrong.

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:09 pm

already pulled them out. gettin a bit of dirt from round the fingers in prssure plate but apart from that clutch and al seems pretty clean

Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:09 am

Ok, wen the clutch out, did you drop engine or box out to check?
if box, does drive go thru box? put in gear, try to turn input shaft.
does OUTPUT shaft turn?
if Engine out, do same thing, is resistance to turning forces?
can you turn drive shafts?
follow whole drive train thru, with all wheels up in air. then you will be able to isolate prob easier.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:48 am

Take the clutch plate and the cover to clutch systems on Hazeldeen rd and they will test it for you, it sounds like a broken diaphragm spring in the clutch cover.

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:30 pm

thanks aaron i will do that.how much is it? or is it free?wen i turn input shaft on gear box the output shaft turns. tried holding output shaft while turnin input and nothin broken in gearbox.

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:29 pm

Aaron wrote: clutch systems on Hazeldeen rd

got a good crew in there. helped me out heaps with my 40's clutch plate.. real helpful fellow..

mud_slinger · Post by **mud_slinger** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:17 pm

sweet thats wat i want to hear. cheers guys. will keep you posted as to wat the issue is

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:53 pm

Aaron wrote:Take the clutch plate and the cover to clutch systems on Hazeldeen rd and they will test it for you, it sounds like a broken diaphragm spring in the clutch cover.

what he said, cracked diapghram in the pressure plate