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recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:45 am
by peanut.901
what's everyone's recommendation on what motor is the best in the Suzuki's 1990 and up??
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:02 am
by Rotazuk
Suzuki what ?
doubt you would put a g16 into a v6 and likewise a h27 in a samurai .
Chris
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:37 pm
by Crash bandicoot
Rotazuk wrote:Suzuki what ?
doubt you would put a g16 into a v6 and likewise a h27 in a samurai .
Chris
Ive seen a subaru WRX motor in a samurai.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:20 pm
by LOLYF
Crash bandicoot wrote:Ive seen a subaru WRX motor in a samurai.
I've seen a V8 in a samurai
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:54 pm
by Crash bandicoot
LOLYF wrote:Crash bandicoot wrote:Ive seen a subaru WRX motor in a samurai.
I've seen a V8 in a samurai
doesn't make either of them the best though does it
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:58 pm
by Ralfie
Crash bandicoot wrote:LOLYF wrote:Crash bandicoot wrote:Ive seen a subaru WRX motor in a samurai.
I've seen a V8 in a samurai
doesn't make either of them the best though does it
The 'best' is relevant to a persons budget, repowering and engineering skills and individual requirements i.e. road legal or not.
Opened ended question which will not get a definitive answer.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:14 pm
by peanut.901
im meaning standard motor guys??
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:03 pm
by keithal
peanut.901 wrote:im meaning standard motor guys??
for what model suzuki tho?
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:43 pm
by peanut.901
vitara
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:23 pm
by suzookyman
Vitara or Escudo?
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:30 pm
by churchill
V6's are: H32B is ~220hp, H27A is ~180hp, H25A is ~160hp, H20A is 145hp. 4's are: J20 ~145hp, G16 don't know the output of these.
Pretty sure all engines are alloy block and head so quite light.
The 3.2 is actually based on the HFV6 that powers the Commodore whilst the other V6's are jointly developed by Suzuki and Mazda.
Really depends what your after as to the best engine for the job.
V6 recommendation, stay away from the H20A due to timing gear issues. All the others seem good but will drink the gas.
J20 is supposedly a good engine and would provide more power than the G16 . In saying that the G16 seems to be very popular as a swap into a samurai and will be relatively cheap.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:29 am
by zukmeista
For a vitara I would go for the J20, the V6's have timing chain issues and the G16's crack blocks and heads. Haven't heard of anyone having issues with a J20 though.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:26 am
by churchill
zukmeista wrote:For a vitara I would go for the J20, the V6's have timing chain issues and the G16's crack blocks and heads. Haven't heard of anyone having issues with a J20 though.
Only the H20A has the timing chain issue.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:12 am
by Ralfie
peanut.901 wrote:im meaning standard motor guys??
A standard motor is 'standard' and therefore the best motor for the vehicle.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:27 am
by zukmeista
churchill wrote:zukmeista wrote:For a vitara I would go for the J20, the V6's have timing chain issues and the G16's crack blocks and heads. Haven't heard of anyone having issues with a J20 though.
Only the H20A has the timing chain issue.
Well he did say Vitara, not Grand Vitara and the H20 is the only V6 available in the Vitara.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:02 pm
by Rotazuk
If I was looking for a meduim grade offroader , I would be looking for a j20 powered second gen escudo/vitara , 94+ model without airbags etc . A few mod's , front diff etc , and it would be a good wagon . Never had a H20 , v6 , but not heard much good about them . They must do the job but drink the gas I believe . The old trials truck had a j18 in it , went well and did not seem to mind the abuse . Well its still going strong with the new owner .
Chris
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:48 pm
by strx7
zukmeista wrote:churchill wrote:zukmeista wrote:For a vitara I would go for the J20, the V6's have timing chain issues and the G16's crack blocks and heads. Haven't heard of anyone having issues with a J20 though.
Only the H20A has the timing chain issue.
Well he did say Vitara, not Grand Vitara and the H20 is the only V6 available in the Vitara.
wrong, you can get TD61 chassis coded vehicles which look like a TD11/TD31/TD51 ie 1995-1997 v6 shape but have H25's in them.
H25A & H27A's still need timing chains replaced but they last more KM than H20A ones.
as do J20a's. Whomever was rattling off engine options before, forgot the J24's that were fitted to the 2009+ TAA4/TDA4 coded vehicles...
I'd personally call all bar the H20A "good" engines, but they all need to be maintained. Lack of maintanence is what causes engines to die, not changing the cam chain at the reccomended interval is exactly that too.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:08 pm
by churchill
I have a factory H25A Vitara and the timing chains were in good condition last time I check them at ~125000km.
Yes mine is thristy and there is a J24 engine that I didn't mention.
Re: recommendation on what motor is the best
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:57 pm
by strx7
if not maintained I have seen H25A's throw chains at 140km, with a bit of maintainence they go 190ish, if well looked after they will do 250ish.