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249
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:50 am
by fish
looking to fix my 249 transfer case. the vc is locked up. the fellas on the jeep forum claim a swap for the 242 is a good idea but i like the awd, anyone got a 249 or a vc i can buy? or know where i could find one?
im down south so its hard.
Re: 249
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:32 am
by TJ
Can you give details of model and year of your Grand here as well.
Re: 249
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:31 pm
by lax2wlg
Read up about swapping in a NP231 from an XJ, then you get part time 4x4 too
Re: 249
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:44 pm
by fish
It sounds good but im keen to keep it simple and stay with the 249
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:05 am
by fish
do you think repco could get one?
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:10 am
by fish
do you think repco could get one?
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:28 am
by lax2wlg
I was a pickapart recently, there was a 1996 Grand Cherokee with the I6 motor here at the pick a part... their price is $209 for gbox & transfer, or 99 for just the transfer. As is, no returns etc.
It would be cheap to mainfreight the transfer case only down there.
I can go check the mileage/specification of the Jeep if you want. Who knows if its fried though.
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:14 am
by TJ
Repco won't carry it. If you are getting a new viscous coupling, your best option would be to import it from US directly. Cheapest option even after freight.
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:41 am
by fish
lax2wlg wrote:I was a pickapart recently, there was a 1996 Grand Cherokee with the I6 motor here at the pick a part... their price is $209 for gbox & transfer, or 99 for just the transfer. As is, no returns etc.
It would be cheap to mainfreight the transfer case only down there.
I can go check the mileage/specification of the Jeep if you want. Who knows if its fried though.
wow thats an option, was the box out?
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:11 am
by Bubba
TJ wrote:Repco won't carry it. If you are getting a new viscous coupling, your best option would be to import it from US directly. Cheapest option even after freight.
Or from Oz, I'm finding some parts are cheaper from OZ once you include freight. OZ is def cheaper than NZ, and quicker too.
If in doubt, walk on the path most walked, (listen to TJ and you won't go far wrong)
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:53 pm
by TJ
Thanks Bubba for your vote of confidence. I'm still learning myself after tinkering with my Wrangler for 11 years now.
Oz is a good option but sometimes going to the source is easier.
There is a second hand supplier in Melbourne, I'll find the details and post them here. I got my rear light from them a few years ago for the Grand.
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:03 pm
by TJ
Check with
www.jeepparts.com.auI'll find the other one later.
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:47 pm
by lax2wlg
Yes TJ knows whats going on.
Right however notwithstanding in any event, I checked it out today and unfortunately the whole trans is gone already.
Often the path most travelled is boring and uninteresting
Then again these viscous dealies are all known to shit themselves around the 75,000 mile mark, probably wisest to install a new one.
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:38 pm
by TJ
Ok Fish. Remembering from your other thread, what you have bought is a 97 Grand Cherokee with 4.0l engine. It has NV249 transfer case. You have four options:
- Find another 249 and swap it in.
- Find and swap with a 242 as some Grand Cherokees did come out with this. It was mostly in XJs though. It still gives your AWD option.
- Find and swap with a 231. Plenty to find. You would be encouraged to put a fixed yoke (SYE kit).
- Find a new viscous coupler and put that in after tearing your existing 249. Remember VC is a sealed unit in these, unlike later version Grands with 247.
If you go with the forth option, you have four options:
- Buy a replacement unit from a vendor with a kit to service everything (eg.
http://www.quadratec.com/products/52449_1570.htm or
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/viscous-co ... n-kit.html or
http://www.amazon.com/Crown-Automotive- ... B000FQ7C14)
- Buy a replacement unit from Ebay (eg.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-ZJ-1997-19 ... 06&vxp=mtr).
- Buy a replacement unit from a dealer. Getting from US would be around a $1k. Locally from a dealer, better not ask. If you do, call them while sitting down.
- Buy just the viscous coupler (
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/viscous-co ... 220aa.html)
I believe you are looking for Mopar part number 4897220AA
Hope this helps.
PS: I don't know everything, I'm just trying to be helpful and get you out of a bind (no pun intended).
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:33 pm
by fish
awesome stuff.
there is a lot to condsider but i think i will go with option 4-4 it seems the least mucking around.
i can get one shipped here for around 5-6 hundred.
more than i would like but its got to be done,
Re: 249
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:50 pm
by TJ
fish wrote:awesome stuff.
there is a lot to condsider but i think i will go with option 4-4 it seems the least mucking around.
i can get one shipped here for around 5-6 hundred.
more than i would like but its got to be done,
I have used Quadratec for many many things. And lately DHL Express has done some great shipping rates. My last box was only USD30 to ship, delivered here in 5 days from Quadratec.
http://www.quadratec.com/products/52449_1571.htmThat seems to be the cheapest ones. Just double check that it is the correct part number for your vehicle.
Re: 249
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:05 am
by fish
right looks sound, i have no issue getting things from states, so far ive had no problems, only this being biger and more expensive, was wondering if there would be import fees or tax at our end? no sure how that works.
Re: 249
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:55 am
by TJ
Have a look at
www.whatsmyduty.co.nzThere will be GST plus Customs charges as it above the threshold. But no duty as such.
Re: 249
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:15 am
by fish
I have no concept of how that works. Ill need to research.
Re: 249
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:05 am
by fish
in light of the full cost i will now entertain the idea of a t case swap. have you done one tj?
Re: 249
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:23 am
by yeti
Re: 249
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:27 am
by TJ
No, no swaps. I did have to rebuild mine after the output shaft was bent out of shape on my 231.
242 out of a ZJ or XJ would be a good option. Later model WJ use progressive coupler which is more reliable than the viscous coupling.
Re: 249
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:37 pm
by fish
found this page and it makes it all pretty clear (as mud)http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/transfer-case-swap-info-np249-np231-np242-685644/
so judging by my tag i have a 249 made in aprill 97. so a 242 from that year should bolt right on and have the same shaft length. shit i hope im right.
then all ill need is a shock boot to cover the shaft and bob yer auntie.