Offroad-Express

Well after breaking yet another front shaft (my 4th) on the last obstacle before being out of the jungle with minimal effort last weekend (including the front wheel going flat at the same time as trying to get out of a obstacle with the axle fully compressed) it was time for no more broken axles time action. They seem to snap when the wheels cannot rotate easily

Worse I had done over 3/4 of the trip with a rear axle with 2 studs missing and this was no walk in the park track (3 broken cv's one busted rear diff one busted off spare tire carrier) - fully loaded with 34 camp beds 300litres of water, tarps and food for 35 people the troopy was being driven with due care.

So a set of longfields was ordered however only right side is available. the left side needs to be measured up and custom made by longfields as the old troopy chassis no is BJ75000002977 and the shafts are apparently different to later models.

Then the issue of the broken studs was done first spent ages getting out the 2 philips screws which had been minced when the previous studs were repairs sigh sob.


A spare hub was purchase and all 3 are to be customised to have 10 studs along with the shafts this week. Anyone else done this mod? I also believe you can put bigger studs in.


The lost and forlorn axle


Then it was down to the exhaust shop to repair RED after my russian friend belted off the spare tire through the rear window smashng the tire carrier on a drop of during the same trip. First we fitted the new window. I ground down the poorly welded original and the exhaust shop happily welded it back on.


Then it was time for the right side longfield to be fitted but not before I noticed a split shock top mount frame and a loose spring hanger bolt.


Has anyone installed longfields in a 75? I want to know the results for anything else I need to worry about - haha front diff exploding etc.

More TLC for the 27 year old troopy needed in coming months - including a new body which I have found 1800k away in SABAH.

geckoadventure wrote:after breaking yet another front shaft (my 4th)

geckoadventure wrote:(3 broken cv's one busted rear diff one busted off spare tire carrier

You guys should trade them in for some stock LWB Nissan Patrols.

lax2wlg wrote:

geckoadventure wrote:after breaking yet another front shaft (my 4th)

geckoadventure wrote:(3 broken cv's one busted rear diff one busted off spare tire carrier

You guys should trade them in for some stock LWB Nissan Patrols.

Really pity there is only a few here they are not a popular item. outnumbered by 99,998 toyotas to one nissan at least.

Plenty of useless Nissan Frontiers here all with open DIFFS ( I know I had one for 11 months)

and the newer Navara with no ground clearance

Your longfield loaded axles are way stronger than a std Nissan number. You did purchase the 30 spline cv's and axles though didn't you? If you only brought the 27 spline cv you are still going to have issues (well from what I have seen anyway on another rig).

rokhound wrote:Your longfield loaded axles are way stronger than a std Nissan number. You did purchase the 30 spline cv's and axles though didn't you? If you only brought the 27 spline cv you are still going to have issues (well from what I have seen anyway on another rig).

Ya 30 splines purchased.

More important is to fix the rear axle its the 4th or 5th time they have snapped off either wheel. I also need to prepare 2 rear axles spare after.

lax2wlg wrote:Insert useless comments.

Really, you have to go and flood yet another topic with drivel!
Sorry Gecko I have nothing useful to add either.

Yeah we did the hub mod on my winch truck, used the bigger 100series studs and colets, also used 4 of the 100 series dowels on each hub, have never had a issue in 5 years of racing it........... ( so far.... )

geckoadventure wrote:Really pity there is only a few here they are not a popular item.

Yeah it is a pity.

callum007 wrote:Some garbage.

Thanks for using text colour to imply that I am gay. Thats really.... gutsy stuff. I take it your comments are some sort of inbuilt Barry Crump sheeple rugby shorts flip flops Buzzy Bee tall poppy syndrome defense mechanism. You Toyota guys go on the defensive real quick if someone questions your religion.Gecko is open minded and rational, thats what happens when you live in a big country like Malaysia

Anyway gecko good luck with the repairs.

lax2wlg wrote:

geckoadventure wrote:Really pity there is only a few here they are not a popular item.

Yeah it is a pity.

callum007 wrote:Some garbage.

Thanks for using text colour to imply that I am gay. Thats really.... gutsy stuff. I take it your comments are some sort of inbuilt Barry Crump sheeple rugby shorts flip flops Buzzy Bee tall poppy syndrome defense mechanism. You Toyota guys go on the defensive real quick if someone questions your religion.Gecko is open minded and rational, thats what happens when you live in a big country like Malaysia

Anyway gecko good luck with the repairs.

Not sure how I got the colour but im impressed no intention of saying your gay as I don't know you lol.

This is toyota country Nissan 4x4s apart from a flood of pickups since 2004 are actually rare here as the Nissan dealer never brought them in and MQ/GQ/GU etc are really rare .

I know who barry crump is he is my childhood idol as they had a K9 TV on the front of a 40 Series.

Madaz wrote:Yeah we did the hub mod on my winch truck, used the bigger 100series studs and colets, also used 4 of the 100 series dowels on each hub, have never had a issue in 5 years of racing it........... ( so far.... )

This is exactly what info I was looking for I will get my whiz spanner man to get this done this week now. 4 dowels and 6 studs then or I can go 8 studs and 2 dowels.

Many thanks.

I Didn't mean to flood your thread with drivel at all so I am sorry I posted

But its interesting to learn that there are so few Nissan Patrols over there. So you must have very few options for a late-ish model live axle expedition platform. Jeep and Land Rover and maybe Gelandewagen I guess are the other vehicles that come to mind before you get into portal territory.

Gecko - comment about me being gay etc was in response to Callum007's post, not yours. I like my beer cold and my homosexuals flaaaaaming.

lax2wlg wrote:I Didn't mean to flood your thread with drivel at all so I am sorry I posted

But its interesting to learn that there are so few Nissan Patrols over there. So you must have very few options for a late-ish model live axle expedition platform. Jeep and Land Rover and maybe Gelandewagen I guess are the other vehicles that come to mind before you get into portal territory.

Gecko - comment about me being gay etc was in response to Callum007's post, not yours. I like my beer cold and my homosexuals flaaaaaming.

Nissans not imported very very rare

LAndrovers abound due to govt (power and POLICE) but they moving away last 2 years to buy Japanese pickups.

Jeeps only other live axles around - G wagins like finding rocking horse shit same with Range rovers

Landcruiser II is the 90% of the merket here oh and Pajero but I'm not saying much about them its a IFS thing i think IFS is rubbish.

lax2wlg wrote:I Didn't mean to flood your thread with drivel at all so I am sorry I posted

But its interesting to learn that there are so few Nissan Patrols over there. So you must have very few options for a late-ish model live axle expedition platform. Jeep and Land Rover and maybe Gelandewagen I guess are the other vehicles that come to mind before you get into portal territory.

Gecko - comment about me being gay etc was in response to Callum007's post, not yours. I like my beer cold and my homosexuals flaaaaaming.

Lax. Chil out bro.
You have great tech info but your incessant derogatory comments really take the shine of the good you could provide to this community. And great, now you have single handedly bought your views about gay rights and people into a 4wd forum. I just don't see how it's relevant. (and yes, I did see the pink writing. Again, chil out)

Gecko, keep up the posts mate. Loving the volvo build. Will definitely keep an eye on this troopy as well. Is it this troopy that has the god winch? Do you mind if I PM you for a little more info about your winch?

Cheers.

Arron.

Checkerhead wrote:

lax2wlg wrote:I Didn't mean to flood your thread with drivel at all so I am sorry I posted

But its interesting to learn that there are so few Nissan Patrols over there. So you must have very few options for a late-ish model live axle expedition platform. Jeep and Land Rover and maybe Gelandewagen I guess are the other vehicles that come to mind before you get into portal territory.

Gecko - comment about me being gay etc was in response to Callum007's post, not yours. I like my beer cold and my homosexuals flaaaaaming.

Lax. Chil out bro.
You have great tech info but your incessant derogatory comments really take the shine of the good you could provide to this community. And great, now you have single handedly bought your views about gay rights and people into a 4wd forum. I just don't see how it's relevant. (and yes, I did see the pink writing. Again, chil out)

Gecko, keep up the posts mate. Loving the volvo build. Will definitely keep an eye on this troopy as well. Is it this troopy that has the god winch? Do you mind if I PM you for a little more info about your winch?

Cheers.

Arron.

The GOD winch is on my highly modified RED Landcruiser II 13/14BT (read basically COMP engine spec) powered LC.

The YELLOW Troopy (aka school bus) has a modified 8274 (shaft, drain plud and fill plug added and 6HP motor, Albright) - to do NEW BODY then GOD winch. The BLUE 1KZ Landcruiser II also has a modified 8274 (6HP motor , Shaft and motor lockable freespool, Albright)

You can PM more about the god winch Turoroa also has info from me.

This is the beaten and bashed troopy


The story (23-24 August which went a few extra days sigh) of the above pic is coming 5 of the 6 vehicle broke this trip including the 2 rescue vehicles. Will be posted tonight along with I hope the video. All i'm going to say is TAKE A SPARE and do not use a HILUX ALLOY as a SPARE lol.

This little clip may help.


[video]http://youtu.be/63klFghd6A8[/video]

http://youtu.be/63klFghd6A8

Generally the cause of braking hub studs is loose wheel bearings. If the bearing is loose the weight of the vehicle is now on the hub studs & they will break. You can buy ARP Studs that are wayyyy stronger than the factory ones.

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.php/yotamain/4runner/toyota-front-axle-parts/toyota-arp-2000-hub-stud-kit.html

tallsam66 wrote:Generally the cause of braking hub studs is loose wheel bearings. If the bearing is loose the weight of the vehicle is now on the hub studs & they will break. You can buy ARP Studs that are wayyyy stronger than the factory ones.

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.php/yotamain/4runner/toyota-front-axle-parts/toyota-arp-2000-hub-stud-kit.html

Interesting the wheel bearings etc were all checked and are checked when I stop for heat etc.

ok all fixed picked up last Thurday night packed 34 beds and kit into the TROOPY




and a test run with the kids from the orphanage for 4 days

half unloaded


Loaded up with a tiger and the girls lol



Load testing my ISUZU I cannot tell the employees off for letting the kids jump on


Passed no issue with the axles.

and this morning a urgent replacement of the brake unit

geckoadventure wrote:

rokhound wrote:Your longfield loaded axles are way stronger than a std Nissan number. You did purchase the 30 spline cv's and axles though didn't you? If you only brought the 27 spline cv you are still going to have issues (well from what I have seen anyway on another rig).

Ya 30 splines purchased.

More important is to fix the rear axle its the 4th or 5th time they have snapped off either wheel. I also need to prepare 2 rear axles spare after.

as stated above its the loose bearings that is generating the problem.
to properly check and set the bearings you will need to remove the drive axle, as the axle will hide any bearing movement completely.
also use lots of good quality grease (i use ep2 grease as it handle water better than std grease)
when i set the bearings, i use a large hammer and belt the side of the tyre (don't be silly here of course). this help push the bearing and seat it better. the thumping of the hammer is nothing compared to sliding sideways it a rut and hitting the bank.
you will be surprised on the lock nut movement once the hammer has been used

Another point is if the axle and wheel studs have been used a lot just replace them with new. Bolt elongation ( how much it stretches) was how we ysed to determine bug end torque when I was an apprentice, we used new bolts every time as they were thought of as cheap insurance and I have never seen a new one time use one fail.