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D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:41 am
by RJT
Hi there.
I'm having some issues with the rear brakes grabbing and wearing the pads prematurely (i.e. 6 months), plus creating a lot of heat which I'm sure isn't great for the wheel bearings..
I did a rear calliper rebuild not long ago, checked it all out last night while replacing the pads and the pistons and slides are all moving freely but they're still grabbing once they're bled.
I replaced the brake master cylinder 6 odd months ago when i changed the pads last, wondering if I didn't bleed that up properly maybe? Braking performance is still fine.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers, Rhys.

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:18 am
by derk
RJT wrote:I replaced the brake master cylinder 6 odd months ago when i changed the pads last,


have you checked the pushrod length on the new M/C to make sure there's some freeplay so the M/C piston can return fully

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:50 pm
by RJT
Good point! I never thought of that! :oops:
Thanks for that, I'll check it!
Seems it only really started when I changed the master cylinder so kinda makes sense. :lol:

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:47 pm
by RJT
derk wrote:have you checked the pushrod length on the new M/C to make sure there's some freeplay so the M/C piston can return fully


Worked a treat in the end, thanks. Still getting a bit hot at the rear end but presuming the wheel bearings are fried.
Just another job to add to the list.

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:02 pm
by RJT
Ok so adjusting the freeboard in the pedal seemed to work but turns out it didn't. Still a lot of drag on the brakes!
I tried adjusting the brake booster pushrod (nearly at min adjust) and has helped a little more but I'm still not happy.
Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated. Getting pretty off it now!
Cheers, Rhys.

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:54 pm
by ChurchurDan
You didnt get a master cylinder for a rear drum brake terrano or navara by accident? They have a residual pressure valve in the rear circuit to maintain a little pressure in the drum brake circuit. This will prevent the callipers returning correctly.

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:48 am
by MihiT
Do they have a load proportioning valve for the tray? Did you bleed in the correct order (farthest wheel to nearest)?, is there a vacuum leak to the booster? Some crap in the lines (especially if previous cylinder had corrosion in it)?, are your wheel bearings pre-loaded correctly?

Just some thoughts.

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:13 pm
by RJT
Bled Correctly (up until recently was apprentice in motor trade). No blockages as it bled up fine. The previous master cylinder bust a seal, no corrosion. No proportioning valve. No vacuum leaks that I've noticed. No movement in wheel bearings and when rear rotors are removed can easily spin the axles.
It's got me stumped!

Re: D21 rear brake issues

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:20 pm
by RJT
ChurchurDan wrote:You didnt get a master cylinder for a rear drum brake terrano or navara by accident? They have a residual pressure valve in the rear circuit to maintain a little pressure in the drum brake circuit. This will prevent the callipers returning correctly.


Good question that. Though I got the master cylinder from BNT via my rego # so I'd have thought they would give me the right one off that.
It definitely makes sense if that's the the case! Maybe I need to try again with a new master cylinder.
Thanks for that!!!