Have you removed the swaybar on your offroader?

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:07 pm

A few of us in chat have been having a chat about swaybars. So... Do you still have them connected on your offroad vehicle? How much difference has it made to handling. Any reasons as to why you shouldnt remove them?

Any resons why you shouldnt remove them for offroad? (I have one)

Should you remove one and not the other?

matwelli · Post by **matwelli** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:37 am

Removed both on the paj - would not go back.

On road - pay some respect to posted speeds on corners, handling is "different"

Off road - big improvement in flex

only reasons I can see to leave it on, gen 1 pajero (pre 1990) WILL snap rear radius rods if the swaybar is removed.
Only other reason is when traversing a slope side-on you will get an extra 5 deg or so of lean. - could possibly be overcome by using isolated air shocks.

matwelli · Post by **matwelli** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:39 am

Turo - whats your reason for not removing them off road ?

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:06 am

it makes a huge difference off road (on the zook anyways) it makes each wheel on the front flex individually instead of together (hence the one wheel in the air thing) makes it abit more floaty on the road....kinda like driving a couch down the street quite cool really

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:59 am

matwelli wrote:Turo - whats your reason for not removing them off road ?

I found that it "pulls" the vehicle back to the ground if it feels you're about to go over. Makes it more stable on sidelings too.

Mattman · Post by **Mattman** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:05 am

I have disconnects on the front and leave the rear bar in.

Having the front disconnected provides the extra travel I am after, the rear artics quite well with the bar in so I have left it.

With the rear it doesn't seem to tip over as much even with the front disconnected.

YMMV

Matt.

spanky · Post by **spanky** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:58 am

on my scudo removing the front sway bar made a heap of difference off road, on road it is a little more interesting to drive but worth it

vaughan

smurf182 · Post by **smurf182** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:47 pm

My rear bar was removed without any effort on my part recently (broken sway bar bracket, a very common problem on the surf rear end apparently).

Nice increase in articulation, not so nice increase in bodyroll on the open road.

coxsy · Post by **coxsy** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:51 pm

my front one on the saf is not there , disconect the back off road

4x4Wolf · Post by **4x4Wolf** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:48 am

Mine was disconnected... broken sway bar bracket, much better off road and not much differnet on road. I was wondering if it is going to effect the WOF.

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:10 pm

mine are hanging in my garage... heaps better offroad, like everyone else says... differant onroad, not a biggie, but id prob put the front back on if i went long distance in it.

long · Post by **long** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:01 pm

Ok as i see this forum so far remove IFS sway bar for off road n may be rear but put front on espicaly if doing big ks on open road as i do during the winter months chaseing race meets 4 my dogs

albundy · Post by **albundy** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:35 pm

I found the front sawybar removed on the terrano no good:

IFS. Now have a safari

so solid axle and no swaybars, bloody brillant. Its desiel so can't go fast around corners anyway :lol:

Al

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:57 pm

Removed sway bar on my 70 MWB - makes a huge difference off road. It rolls around a bit on road but i can live with that for the offroad improvement. Shed a bit of weight too!
Pete

warlord225 · Post by **warlord225** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:42 pm

its a good mod, I noticed the amount of extra vehicle lean negligable, but the extra off road articulation is alot

callum007 · Post by **callum007** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:16 pm

turf it in the bin. cruiser never needed it. blizzard well never needed one

MudBum · Post by **MudBum** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:57 am

Took the front one off the Shorty and like Al says its great offroad with a small amount of xtra bodyroll.
On the artic ramp the rear was fully extended with the new shocks at max height and the swaybar wasn't really limiting anything :shock:

(maybe 60mm lift wasn't enuf) still for my newbie 4wd experiences it will do for now.

nuts · Post by **nuts** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:44 am

i have a disconect on the rear and fixd on the front but looking at changing front to a disconect as i do allot of onrad miles as well as offroad

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:04 pm

Since the upgrades done on my 4x4 I'm looking at getting a swaybar fitted. It handles very badly.

IcedJohnno · Post by **IcedJohnno** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:10 am

I take mine (front only) off for big trips but its on the rest of the time. I've got standard suspension and even at that low height the truck handles like a pig with it off.
The SWB Prado is way more comfortable with the bar off when boulder bashing 9 hrs up a river bed.

Has anyone made disconnects up for a Prado? I would consider fitting the LWB rear bar then too if I could do this.

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:20 am

IcedJohnno wrote:Has anyone made disconnects up for a Prado? I would consider fitting the LWB rear bar then too if I could do this.

Funnily enough I've been hunting for an email I got sent about these. Someone makes them, just can't find their number...

Petemcc · Post by **Petemcc** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:04 pm

on my 91 surf i have the rear one off. the other day i had to take the front off when doing clutch and left it off 2 see what it was like, think i will leave it out. i reckin that with both out is more predictable than with just the rear out. with a new set of shock mine was abit rough and now is smoother with the sway bar out. doesnt seem to corner much worse. and now allows the front to hit the bumpstops off road (woohoo another few mm of front articulation!)

Pete

billyvanboheman · Post by **billyvanboheman** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:06 am

I undid mine to see what it was like to drive on road.

1989 Isuzu bighorn with front corners that REALLY dip going round bends even at 40Kmh :!:

I wasn't keen to have a go at open road speeds so went for this instead :!:

Nice and cheap as chips as well, cost a whole $6.00 for the bits :!:

lol:

Only problem I have, as can be seen from the photo, is due to the torsion bars being wound up it puts too much angle on the bolts due to the bottom arm angle :?:

markr · Post by **markr** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:26 pm

wjw wrote:
IcedJohnno wrote:Has anyone made disconnects up for a Prado? I would consider fitting the LWB rear bar then too if I could do this.

Funnily enough I've been hunting for an email I got sent about these. Someone makes them, just can't find their number...

I'd be interested as well....

gomulletgo · Post by **gomulletgo** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:02 pm

I can't tick any of the boxes

Sway whats? It never came out with any :twisted:

smurf182 · Post by **smurf182** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:18 pm

Hope those wet noddy gits making that '4wds are the devil' documentary showing on Thursday night don't see this thread..

People removing anti-roll bars from already roll-over prone old 4wds might not go down too well when subjected to typical media sensationalism.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:37 pm

gomulletgo wrote:I can't tick any of the boxes

Sway whats? It never came out with any

what he said :lol:

sway bars ? i have bars but the only thing they sway are the trees that dont get flattened :twisted:

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:30 am

wopass wrote:
gomulletgo wrote:I can't tick any of the boxes

Sway whats? It never came out with any

what he said

sway bars ? i have bars but the only thing they sway are the trees that dont get flattened

You're right. They don't come out with any, but at that time the speed limit was only 80kph and the roads weren't as banked or as fast as they are now so...yeah. I do use my fj40 offroad alot, but I use it as my everyday hack as well. So I want a safer ride at 100kph. Bring on a sway bay! :salut:

gomulletgo · Post by **gomulletgo** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:30 am

Bring on a sway bay!

Yeah bring on the SWAY BAY!!!

For those of you that don't know it's kinda like a slow vehicle bay, but for trucks without sway bars, basically it consists of really easy corners

suzuki_mike · Post by **suzuki_mike** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:05 pm

Are trucks warrentable without them though?

Have you removed the swaybar on your offroader?

Have you removed the swaybar?

Have you removed the swaybar on your offroader?

sway bars

as i see it

sway bar

;-p

Re: ;-p