"Why not" project SWB LJ71 start of ongoing proje

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:10 pm

Been tossing up to whether i should slowly build this 89' SWB landcruiser into a Little beast of a 4x4 that i bought 6 weeks ago , comes down to $$$ , the time & not having a garage set up as recenlty moved here from Aussie .

I have some photos of it coming soon, daily driver at the moment , you may have already seen it around CHCH , it has a 2L-T that blows smoke under power ( rings or cracked piston ) & drive train with a bearing noise , thinkn Transfer case .Today just had a look at a heavy duty 5sp & transfer ( same t/case as mine )out of a series 60 .

So "Why NOT"

The 1st stage plan >>

Fresh'n the 2-LT so can drive around & not get picked up by the blue brigade & until its ready for the "BiG" week ( swapping in the new engine & driveline combo ) ...

Rebuild this heavy duty Box & t/case that i pick up next week, then trace a 13BT or 14BT as a rebuilder core "you seek and you shall find ", rebuild & blueprint it with quality parts & custom low compression forged pistons with gapless rings , cryo entire bottom end & heads after machining , etc.

then will yank out 2L-T and drop this combination in & run them in gradually before the power is increased sunstantially ( BB turbo's , LPG injection , air/water intercooler, oil coolers & filters , etc )

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:38 pm

Sounds like your going to be busy

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:28 am

Cool! I wouldn't waste my time on the POS 2L-T though, if you keep an eye out you should be able to pick up a good 13BT for less than the cost of getting inside a 2L-T.

Cheers
Clint

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:53 am

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=83632780

13BT 3.4L out of a BJ74 Landcruiser

Would probably need to be rebuilt due to bore wear.

The engine has been partially dismantled with the head and # 4 piston being removed. Otherwise it is complete.

Comes with everything except turbo and exhaust manifold.

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:28 am

cheers for that buddy ,

saw that last night actually & kinda grittn my teeth in angst as its the totally the wrong time for me right this moment financially( straight after xmas with all the bills rolling in )- spewing to as it looks just what i am looking for.

I have been looking on the web for info about these motors a but can't seem to find much at all , i have a new "max ellery -landcruiser worksop manual" but has no photos , and rebuilding process but not much else on them - bugger ! do you know if the 13BT a direct injection ?- thats what i am seeking . think i need to go have a look at one thats been pulled down somewhere to see if it has the build strength & design to what i am seeking , don't want to buy one & to find out otherwise eh !

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:47 am

http://www.gscruiserparts.com/3F_to_14BT_in_FJ70.html

From 3F to 14BT

I have the same trouble with my truck, there is no specific ,manual for the Prado

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:00 pm

I just joined the CHCH Library yesterday and borrowed a BIG 650 page book on Diesels, was up to 1am last night reading some of it , the amount of stuff in there would blow your mind away, learnt heaps more about different systems, for example there's about 6+ different types of oiling systems in common diesels , i did'nt that there were such things as coolant filters around , theres an incredable amount of info in there- heaps about filteration & cooling systems,even covers water injection , aftercoolers/intercoolers ,forced induction , etc, etc - take ages to read it & re-read it ( think its purposelly for Diesel mechanics/Engineers, etc )

My Opinion is that "you can't effectively mofidy something , unless you know precisely how it works"- theory is in session now . funny eh !

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:49 am

Doing this 2JZ conversion, I've probably done over 60 hours worth of reading and research..

Best to research everything first so everything else will be easy... but you always miss something

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:09 pm

I agree , the amount of times i try to be prepared for something and then i miss something small that puts a stop to it until i can get it or do it - just makes you ever more prepared for the next time around .

I am just really fussy now with engines , etc . Kinda have a engine building Hobbie , always reading new info about different techniques from magazines like "Engine masters in the USA" , "Zoom" , fast fours & Hot fours in Aussie, technical blueprinting books, etc , etc - You can never have too much information/Knowledge i reckn.

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:59 pm

guess what ,

That 13BT on trademe that you told me about , i just bid on it and won the auction for that engine. ( spoke to the fella who has it , about it today actually) Would you know of the best way to get it down to CHCH ( frieght, etc ) ??

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:13 pm

Toll TranzRail/TranzLink would be the cheapest. Where is it?

Depot to depot would be best..

Cheers,

Bill

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:35 pm

think its in Hamilton , would be great if the guy could drop it off a the depot there for me , may have to pay him a tad extra to cover his time ,etc

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:50 pm

Put a Post up in Off Topic, see if someone like DieselBoy or Wopass will pick it up for you and drop it to a freight depot... would only cost a few beers

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:57 pm

Hmmmmm, i shipped four 33" tyres and rims down to Chch for Daz, we used Moveit Depot to depot. Cheap as.

Get the dimensions of the engine and weight and its destination and give them a call. I can take it to the depot if need be, but you woild think the seller could do that for ya.

http://www.moveit.co.nz

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:54 pm

You'll need to get the guy to pinch a pellet and pay him for a couple of cheap tie downs and it'll be right as rain to ship

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:10 am

When i did the tyres through moveit, i just dropped them off there at the depot and they threw them on a pallet and strapped it down.

I can get a pallet if needed. The seller can get the tie downs, and provided he's there to help me get the bloody thing on the trailer, i could pick up this weekend and take it to the depot on Monday.

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:19 pm

cheers for the offer ,if you could do it in a week or 2 , i'll shout you a Carton or a slab as we Aussies call it .

Funnly enough the gearbox & t/case i was going to buy turned out to be more hassle to get it to fit as it came behind a 2H , the guy i am buying this 13BT said he has the gearbox & t/case that was behind the engine and offered it at a good price , i could'nt say "No" as it saves alot of hassle looking around for one to suit and he has a spare pallet at his place too & has an engine crane ( starting to sound too good to be true ), only problem is that its still in his truck , plus will have to wait a week till i get payed to pay the extra for the G/box & T/case ( moved over here from Melbourne 3 months ago & did'nt know anyone , paying for this & paying for that )

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:09 pm

Sweet, know how that is :lol:

Gimme a yell when ya ready

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:10 pm

Sweet, know how that is :lol:

Gimme a yell when ya ready

027 357 9547

Cheers,
Pete.

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:31 pm

Cheers pete ,

will give you a call when she's ready to be picked up (a few weeks possibly ) not in a rush for it @ the moment .

Rick

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:46 pm

adventures_more wrote:cheers for the offer ,if you could do it in a week or 2 , i'll shout you a Carton or a slab as we Aussies call it .

when i was over there working the blokes couldnt understand how we call it a "BOX OF PISS"
:roll:

was quite funny

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:41 pm

haha finally worked out to upload photos from photobucket . This is my stock engine bay as i type this , towards the end the of the year , it'll look nothing like it ( braided hoses , heat shielding , orgainised , etc )with a tad larger engine in place with serious grunt to be had .

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:02 pm

things are starting to happen for my LJ71 build , gathering parts as i go . I have the intercooler i plan to turn into a water/air version , today i won a bid on ebay for a wicked "Garrett GT25 VTN turbocharger that comes with a controller , i plan to trace another and run 2 of them thru custom turbo manifolds that i will design that will go on this 13BT that i will build , started buying a few digital micrometers as they are more precise . have to get the 13Bt rebuilder core sent down from Hamilton and start on that , will do the head 1st and modify the stock rockers to roller rockers ( needle bearings ) & runs aftermarket & lighter valvetrain .

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:19 pm

buying a new( 2nd hand ) transfer case tonight that has a pTO off it , have bough ta 14B workshop manual & now am buying a 14B complete engine ( picking it up next weekend ) and building to to run two garret VNT turbo's or a large single VNT , gettn a 14BT or 15BT injection pump ( already know where i am gettn it ) , plan to bore out the block to 15B size ( 4.1 ltrs) & sleeve it using 15B sleeves or custom thicker siamesed sleeves , will use 14BT rods ( buying good 2nd hand ) gettn them shot peened & cryogeniced & 220,000+ psi rods blots ( ARP ) & custom Arias forged pistons . possibly custom grind camshaft , roller rockers & lighter valvetrain to rev & lift injector pump governor speed to around 4000 rpm . in the next coming months this will all happen !

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:54 pm

where did you ge the "new/2nd hand" transer case

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:50 pm

it was off trademe , but one of those people who mispelt one of the critical words and left other stuff out , so Bugger all people will see it & any other stuff , unless you do a complete general search on trademe or ebay for " 4x4" or "Toyota" and search the whole lot. I do this now when ever i am lookn to buy a certain something and the amount of stuff you get really cheap is amazing - ( my 2 cents worth )

oh yeh , will be selling my now 2LT , gearbox & t/case really cheap later this year ( couple hundred the whole lot ) as will habe a new Combo in there & have a big grin on my face !

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:07 pm

adventures_more wrote:
oh yeh , will be selling my now 2LT , gearbox & t/case really cheap later this year ( couple hundred the whole lot ) as will habe a new Combo in there & have a big grin on my face !

dont do anyhing stupid like that lol. just sell it straight to me

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Tue May 08, 2007 11:52 pm

I bought a 14B for the parts awhile ago as will be going ahead with a stroker 13BT ( 14B crank ) in the coming months , was thinkn of turning the 14B into the turbo version , but already had a 13BT & save the hassle as 13BT is a complete rebuilder , 14B crank is in mint condition , plus will use other parts ( flywheel , front covers , power & vacuum pump's , etc ).

Plus have a H55F & transfer case ( with PTO ) for it . lookn at gettn a pair of LSD's for both diffs , just have to find 2nd hand ones & rebuild them or maybe Powertrax "No slip " lockers .

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:25 am

So you staying here now?

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:34 pm

depends whay you mean by "stay here"-
Moving back to Aussie early next year , but completing this rig for fun & buggering off exploring sth island . this site you mean , maybe if i get kicked off here , then i won't come back & piss anyone off eh !