Madaz's V8 lux

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:31 pm

Post specs please :roll:

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:05 am

ewww yea baby im likeing that specs and more pics please :twisted:

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:41 pm

SPECS

Toyota 1uz-fe
KZ Prado auto
bj70 series diffs
Alloy rad
Coil conversion
Evo 4 seats
6 point cage
Superwinch hydraulic winch
Bobtailed and tubbed
35"simexs

Other than that pretty much standard

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:42 pm

Madaz wrote:SPECS

Toyota 1uz-fe
KZ Prado auto
bj70 series diffs
Alloy rad
Coil conversion
Evo 4 seats
6 point cage
Superwinch hydraulic winch
Bobtailed and tubbed
35"simexs

Other than that pretty much standard

damn thats cool you got any more pics? if you cant put them up email them to me (mroffroader@hotmail.com) and i will post them up for you!

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:54 pm

Looks really cool dude. Have you had it running yet?

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:57 pm

NNNIIIIICCCCCEEEEEEE :!:

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:20 pm

Nice, tidy and almost standard.

Very very cool

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:26 pm

Yeah it runs,its been wired up with the standard Soarer computer.
The soarer computer also works the prado trans and the auto is wired up with a switch so that it can be used as a full auto or a manualised one.
Last time I went for a drive it had no pipes and was pretty damn loud

Mattman · Post by **Mattman** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:36 pm

Nice truck, very nice. Coil'd SAS'd 1UZFE'd Simex'd single cab. Wicked.

How did you mod the Prado auto to fit the motor and the computer? I thought the input shaft and pump needed to be changed. Are there enough speed sensors to feed the Lexus ecu?

Is the auto/manual controller available anywhere?

Are the clutch packs in the Prado strong enough to handle the increased power of the 1UZ?

My Surf is currently manual and I am thinking about converting it to auto.

Matt.

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:40 am

Mattman wrote:Are the clutch packs in the Prado strong enough to handle the increased power of the 1UZ?

The A343 out of the V6 surfs and Prados is the best trans Toyota make based on the strength to weight ratio. The only stronger ones are the big arse cruiser ones.

i'll let madaz answer the other q's as I still haven't got the auto running yet ;-)

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tripnip · Post by **tripnip** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:37 pm

kan i ask wi u want ur surf auto mines auto and dont see anything special bwt it wud probly perfer manual for 4x4 etc

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:06 pm

tripnip wrote:wud probly perfer manual for 4x4 etc

Why?

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:53 pm

Hi there Mattman, I didnt do any mods to the prado auto at all and so far it seems to be running ok, but in saying that problems may arise once it starts getting the shit thrashed out of it, if anything happens its not to hard to swap the guts out of a lexus auto into it, but I dont think it will need it.
I used the 3 litre prado auto because the torque figures of the 1kz motor are pretty much the same as a standard 1uz so it should be able to take it.
I am only using the speed sensor thats in the speedo cluster.
The control for the auto is a switch on the dash-up auto, down manual
There are a lot of winch challenge trucks running these autos in various forms ie, prado, surf, lexus hybrid some with quite a bit of power and I dont think theres too many problems.
As for why a auto, got sick of clutches and release bearings full of mud, also hope it will take a bit of bite out of the engine and make life a bit easier on the rest of the drive train especially cvs.
And lastly with every thing else going on in a competion its just one less thing to worry about ie stalling or what gear your in ect... :wink:

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:00 pm

got the lexus auto behind mine in my lux, manual shift and the power is smooth, not all at once, love it to bits, so much more control, thats my 5 cents worth.

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:14 pm

How do you find yours for lowdown power swampa?

Mattman · Post by **Mattman** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:14 pm

How did you mate the Lexus auto to the transfer box?

Do you just use solinoids to control the trans, push button for each?

Cheers
Matt.

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:17 pm

wouldnt have a clue, nah an adaptor shaft with housing was made to attach both together ans solanoids th run auto, i think

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:20 pm

Trans is controlled by 2 relays that work the solonoids in the auto.
If you were gonna put a lexus auto in I think it is cheapest to buy a surf auto and box and swap bits out of a lexus trans to build a hybrid.

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:21 pm

low down power is wicked, use 4.8s and the same tyres as you, hardly use low box,power os smooth, there is no surprises and if i floor it i dont get any surprises

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:35 pm

Yeah its the only thing wrong with running cruza diffs im stuck with 4.1 gears unless I get something custom made.

Cheers

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:59 pm

I just ordered 4.8 ring and pinions from the US. $319 USD brand new (front and rear), plus another $36 postage (surface 4-6 weeks)

Front is the same as a cruiser
Rear is the same as a 4 cyl hilux.

I can get more

Ordered mine from these guys:

http://www.performanceoffroadcenter.com ... h=37_40_77

Other options:

http://www.northwestoffroad.com/parts/d ... inion.html
http://www.precisiongear.com/ringmain.htm

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:44 am

Dont get me wrong- theres nothing wrong with cruza diffs, big strong and cheap and no matter where you are you can always find them and most of the time it will be the right gear ratio(4.1)
Also im trying to stay away from one off or imported parts simply because of the delays replacing stuff when it breaks.

Cheers

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:53 am

oder two lots

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:10 pm

Not quite that rich

Up in the Waikato you cat pick up whole cruiser diff heads for $50....
pretty good bang for you buck!

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:22 pm

4.88's for hilux seem to be premium prices at the mo :-(

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:10 pm

How much of a premium, cause I've got a couple of sets in the garage
1 set of 4.8s ,1 set of 4.3s and 1 set of 4.8 out of a prado( turoas keen on these)
Also have a toyota e-locker that might be surplus to requirements( to fit a 8 inch head)

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:18 pm

Madaz wrote:How much of a premium, cause I've got a couple of sets in the garage
1 set of 4.8s ,1 set of 4.3s and 1 set of 4.8 out of a prado( turoas keen on these)
Also have a toyota e-locker that might be surplus to requirements( to fit a 8 inch head)

how much for the 4.8's but not the ones out of a prado? can you gte me a measurement of them hub to hub front and rear please :?:

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:33 pm

when i got mine 3 year ago the wreckers i got them from wanted 750 a piece, i didnt have a clue then and thought that was a good deal.

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:42 pm

I,ve only got diff heads no fully complete diffs any more.
I know what your saying Swamper I bought my 70 series running gear off a wrecker a couple of years ago and paid $650 for a complete rear diff, but wait for it ---$400 for a bare 70 series front housing--- Ouch

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:44 pm

that was just for rebuilt heads, i gave them a set of 4.5s and paid 750 for the diff heads.