law change to dangerous driving inc private land

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chops
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law change to dangerous driving inc private land

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anyone read the herald today this new law is bout to come into act what do you think about it i have copyed it to here so you can read it and post your opions :lol:



Police will have the powers to charge drivers with dangerous or reckless driving anywhere, including private property, under an unannounced :shock: change in planned legislation. :evil:

Four-wheel-drive enthusiasts say the "draconian" move - not revealed when the Transport Amendment Bill was tabled in Parliament last month - will threaten their freedom. :cry:

But police say it will give them the power to prosecute drivers using the most appropriate charge and farmers are also keen on the idea.

Under the change, the Transport Act sections on dangerous and reckless driving will be amended so the words "on a road" are removed.

The charges of careless and dangerous driving causing injury or death are also changing so they can occur on or off roads. :)

John Sutton, legal adviser at the Police Commissioner's office, said the change came after several incidents, including one in January 2002 on a Christchurch berry farm where five people were injured when a car hit a picnic table.

"There have been a number of incidents where we have been thwarted in laying the right charge," he said.

"It's had to be something like manslaughter - which is a pretty daunting thing for someone who's killed someone in a moment of carelessness."

But New Zealand 4WD Association president Andy Cockroft said the changes appeared draconian.

"It raises concerns not only for us, but for people using vehicles on private property or a closed road for a motorsport event.

"A vehicle taking part in even something like a mud plug - showering people with mud :twisted: - could potentially be affected." :(

Auckland Four Wheel Drive Club spokesman Peter Vahry had not heard of the clause but said the club would be concerned.

"I guess it's another one of our freedoms being eroded. It potentially opens up another avenue for prosecution." :?

The bill is before a select committee and Mr Cockroft said he would seek to make a late submission. :D

Federated Farmers policy analyst Gavin Forrest said farmers supported the rule change, which would mean reckless driving could be an offence in carparks :D - even those privately owned - and on driveways. :?

Roads already have a wide definition under current law - including a motorway, beach, bridge, culvert, ford and any other place to which the public has access.

National MP Nick Smith questioned how the changes would affect motorsport events. :?

"The way I read it, it will certainly pick up the four-wheel-drive clubs, the farmer, the recreationalist off-road. The question is whether it's also going to pick up the Rally of New Zealand-type events." :?:
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Post by mudrat »

Well that basically ceases all forms motorsport :(
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Think how much cotton wool and bubble wrap they will now sell, well until someone chokes/sufficates on it :twisted:
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Post by ike »

Hi Guys, first ever post, just been reading and slowly learning things in the hope of one day soon getting myself a 4wd so i can get some training on safely and responsibly using it... got my eye on a safari at the mo' :D

but then i read this and HAD to ask... does this mean that i can be prosecuted for doing skids and things like that on my own private back yard which is maintained by me at my own cost and only occupied only by me??? (not that i get into that, much more sedate usually) ;-)

thanks for the clarification

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Hi Ike, no, I dont think it means that they'll drive round looking for stuff going on at peoples houses, I think what they're saying is if you're doing a big burnout (at home)and you suddenly loose control and wipe out the 6 mates that are watching........... it gives them something to prosecute you with. ie, like the story said, careless driving instead of manslaughter.....

Wouldn't surprise me if a few over-zealous ones use it to the max tho....
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what a crock! if im doing a burnout at a mates place in his backyard on a purposly placed concrete pad (hey, it could happen...) and a cop going down the rd notices the smoke. whats the cop going to do? hes going to investigate and see a "boyracer" doing a burnout and charge them with carless or dangerous driving. its private property. if they want to have it incase someone gets hurt then make it only when somone gets hurt. otherwise cops will abuse it. im not saying they will drive around looking for burnouts in backyards but they will do anything to meet their quota aswell.... w@*kers. im done. im probly way off base, but thats how i see it...
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Post by 4WDbits »

I missed this in the Herald too. Someone really has nothing better to do. Dangerous driving already includes such wording as 'loss of traction', so donuts in the mates back yard is now dangerous driving. Pulling a bit of wheel spin at the start of a race on a track could also be deemed dangerous driving. I hope Andy is successful.

But this might be a smoke screen for something else being pushed through!!!
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Post by Sadam_Husain »

I don't know the interpritation of the proposed law change but I don't have a problem with someone being procecuted for doing something dangerous that injurs of maims someone else
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