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[DieselBoy]

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[rokhound]

You can use equivilent sized drill bits as replacement pins in the meantime DB. Coupler was not a good look though

[tristanp]

if a drillbit is the right sort of steel you can also get round toolbits in drill sizes- should be available from most engineering supplies shops, ask for the sutton ones from p&n

[MATT4U]

dont most locker companys have a gareentee that will cover that

[gomulletgo]

Ouch, That sucks. Could you please tell us what type of locker it is so we don't buy them?

[wjw]

I was told when I bought mine you can get parts... I would think this could happen to any locker if you push them hard enough...

[SupraSurf]

It looks like your centre gap there is too large, only need enough clearance to allow the dog teeth to move past each other.

Now you have run the locker for a while recheck the gap and maybe adjust the thrust washers slightly.

I've busted the pins before when I shattered a CV. Always carry spares now which I got from and engineering shop, I think they were 1/4 inch ?

Give it a rebuild and go beat it up again

[DieselBoy]

Ha, i keep gettin passed around.

Tried Rocky Road, they passed me on to Powertrax.com, got an email back from them, telling me to ring them

Hey Mike, i hear you have had a locker that has blown the side part out where the pin goes, and its still worked properly after replacing the pins........

How did the damage compare to mine??

Was thinking i could repare the damage by filling the gap left by the brocken out piece with weld and grind the outside flat, and tidy up the inside of the hole with a drill. Should be sweet.

I wouldn't have thought the pins would do all that much, but they obviously do

[wopass]

did sean fob you off mate ? thats a bit wierd maybe he thought you were trying to get free parts off him ? did you ask him if there was replacement couplers available to buy and at what cost ?

[DieselBoy]

From : Rocky Road Outfitters <gwbuild@rocky-road.com>
Reply-To : "Rocky Road Outfitters" <gwbuild@rocky-road.com>
Sent : Monday, 5 February 2007 12:16:47 p.m.
To : "peter Hall" <gqshorty89@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: Busted Lock Right



Sean no longer works for us. For replacement pieces though, it is best to just go direct to Powertrax. We don't have the individual pieces and they can get them to you direct the fastest. Contact info should be at
http://www.powertrax.com

From powertrax:

From : <michael.bolding@regalbeloit.com>
Sent : Wednesday, 7 February 2007 2:00:42 a.m.
To : gqshorty89@hotmail.com
Subject : Re: Fw: Busted Lock Right.



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PARTS ARE AVAILABLE.YOU CAN CONTACT OUR TEC DEPT AT 864-843-9275 X160. FOR PART NUMBERS.YOU CAN PURCHASE THROUGH RANDYS RING AND PINION AT 1-800-347-1188.

Thanks,
Michael Bolding
Customer service


So yeah, startin to feel like i'm gettin the run around, have sent them an email asking if i can sort it out via email as opposed to making a international toll call. See what the response is from that

[billyvanboheman]

At least your not dealing with China Last time I had to ring there for some follow up info on something I brought over there, the run around was a marathon

[mike]

get on the phone and sort it out, best way. Buy a $5 kiora card or similar that only charge 5c to the states.

oh and supralux said the sides blow out all the time and now they make them without sides in them.

Mike

[billyvanboheman]

I wish they had those cheap phone cards when I was ringing China

Good advise though Mike, you do generally have to ring to sort it out.

[DieselBoy]

Bloody good idea mike. Thanks!!!!

[adventures_more]

yeh i reck'n its best to call , emails are like paper , they get lost or misplaced , etc & get the guys name you talk to & time you called and when you send an email , you can PM him so he remembers & does'nt go back on his word .

[wopass]

if it comes down to it mate i can pop the pins out of my spare locker and get you going asap and just leave the damaged side how it is ?

an option for ya anyway.

either that or i can wop some cap screws up to make some...or drill bits or tool steel pieces ...up to you mate

[DieselBoy]

Keep that in mind Ben. Supralux is looking for some spare pins for me to.

Sayin that, i got part numbers last night from the boys at powertrax.com, and they referred me onto Randys Ring and Pinion, who i emailed this morning with the part numbers.

I'll wait and see when i get a reply tonight as to what its all gonna cost and how soon i'll get the parts.

At this stage, I'm thinkin that the kinda wheeling i do in the Safari it would be piece of mind to replace the broken coupler if its not stupidly expensive...

Otherwise i'll just replace the pins, put new shims in to reduce the clearence and run with it and see what happens. Would hate to be out somewhere in the middle of the South Island and have no 4wd.........

[gomulletgo]

I was told when I bought mine you can get parts... I would think this could happen to any locker if you push them hard enough...

Yeh fair enough, but it's still good to know what people are breaking. Diesel boy do you have the 4.2TD in your truck?

So is it a powertrax or a lockright?

[DieselBoy]

Its the same thing mullet

Yep, just a naturally aspirated TD42 pushing 35" Creepy's

But, i think i did most of the damage tryin to get it to unlock by drivin in 2wd with the hubs in, in a carpark late at night when i realised it wasn't unlocking. I should have pulled it straight out and had a look instead.

But i was just trouble shooting, just gettin a feel for what was and wasn't happening with it........ Honest

Chalk that one up as yet another lesson learned the hard way

[gomulletgo]

ok. I was'nt specific enough.

is it a : powertrax "no slip"?

or a: powertrax "lockright"?

[cruza]

falsgrave(chch) have the pin/spring kits, genuine powertrax, about $35,not worth the hassle importing unless you bring in a sizable supply. keep your tolerances near min ,they reckon and the shear pins(what powertrax call them!! are less likely to go. repaired mine less than a month ago after busting a cv/twisting axle, pins went same as yours, had done 5yrs hassle free ,but closed tolerances to min to try and reduce the chance of a repeat.

[DieselBoy]

falsgrave(chch) have the pin/spring kits, genuine powertrax, about $35,not worth the hassle importing unless you bring in a sizable supply. keep your tolerances near min ,they reckon and the shear pins(what powertrax call them!! are less likely to go. repaired mine less than a month ago after busting a cv/twisting axle, pins went same as yours, had done 5yrs hassle free ,but closed tolerances to min to try and reduce the chance of a repeat.

Great, thats alot more user friendly than having to import them. Cheers for the heads up Cruza.

Now i gotta find somewhere to get thrust washers from, i rang Nissan and they will be two weeks away from Japan

Gonna try the transmission places in Hamilton, see if they have another source

Its a Powertrax Lock Right Mullet. Bloody good when they are working properly, would recommend it as money well spent to anyone

[wjw]

DB, if you want me to collect bits from falsgrave and ship them to you let me know...

cheers,

bill

[cruza]

Hmm, just looked at your , photos again .I think it would be wise to try and patch that hole up on the spring side, maybe someone who's good with tig may be able to help,it doesn't have to look pretty, think you may run into trouble if the spring isn't contained, if your tolerances are min the pins shouldn't have any side way's loading and you will get away with it. doesn't take much to machine up thrust washers, work on 4-5thou clearance between pinion shaft and spacer, I used a surface grinder on some donor ones out of a munched diff head, that were to thick.

[DieselBoy]

Diff locks in and it works

Turns out all four pins were broken

I checked with Nissan, and the biggest available thrust washers were 1.85mm. The thrust washers in the diff measured at 1.84mm. Decided in my infinite wisdom to run with it. Short of getting some thrust washers custom made, i wasn't going to get the tolerences closer.

As for the broken coupler, i was tossing up what to do. I had a good play with it and i couldn't manage to squeeze the spring out of the gap left by the broken piece. There was plenty enough left to hold it there.

So i have thrown it together with love, and its back in and working as it should. Took it for a spin round the paddocks with the road tyres on and it behaved itself, so now it needs a test with the 35's.

I reckon it will be fine though. If not, then i know what i need to do. Get some thrust washers made and weld up the coupler.

[cruza]

aleast if if fails ,the diff stays locked and you don't get stuck with 2wd!!

[DieselBoy]

My thoughts exactly

But for now, i've had two weekends full of important repairs that count and i'm sick of it, so i'm looking forward to gettin some R&R painting the LJ

Thanks for the imput, lets hope this is my last post in this thread for a long while

[Baldrick]

Hi DieselBoy....

I was just noseying around the old posts etc and came across this message.....something about Safari's I gather...hmmmmm

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:26 am

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Yeah, awesome guys!!!

Say gidday to Johnny for me, ask him if he's still got my standard safari springs, shocks and rear bumper that i lent him to get Gwenda's Safari certified/Vinned.

I WILL BE BACK TO GET THEM SOON!!!!!

I wonder. Perhaps get your self twin lockers and 35's and then try driving more gently??

This is pretty cheeky to say, but:

The Safari is one of the heaviest built trucks around and if your breaking stuff on it, well, you just shouldn't be!!!!!!!

Adjust driving style slightly, more skill, less speed

4x4 Motto:

As Slow As Possible and As Fast As Necessary

Cheers,
Pete.

Sorry..... just couldn't resist it.

Good to hear you got the lokka going again. Am considering one for the back end of the VX

[DieselBoy]

Yeah, Murphy's Law