zuk conversion
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:25 pm
has anyone put toyota diffs etc in there 413??
good idea? bad idea??
good idea? bad idea??
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:34 pm
I haven't done it, but I've read some of the yank forums and they all rave about it over there. The diff offset can be an issue tho. (driveshaft universal wear and vibration). It seems the extra track-width is primo for your zooks stability. Personally, I would have to get the 'yota diffs at a bargain basement price to justify it. I guess it depends how serious you are; if you compete or if you are just a weekend warrior like alot of us. just my 2 cents worth.
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:44 pm
heaps of the trials guys do it so it cant be all bad... improves stability, stronger.. more ratios (i think) do a coil conversion while your at it...
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:48 pm
Rotazuk has, slightly different set up than norm though. See if he chimes in. Road legal or not??
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:57 pm
i think ryans going for a "A" framed or trailered bush basher???? aren't you 
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:22 pm
im hoping to be road legal??? found out the right people to talk to bout cages,roof cut and suspention cert etc today so i have to do that....
i got offered complete diffs with brakes,driveshafts and transfer box from a 89 hilux today..$700......
i got offered complete diffs with brakes,driveshafts and transfer box from a 89 hilux today..$700......
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:48 pm
Hi
Well will chime in with my thoughts .
Yep have toyota hi lux , mid 80's , diffs in my 413 . Some pic's in my album about the build , very back yard and no cert .
"Good idea , Bad idea " . All depends on what you are doing ? Standard engine , nope don't do it . You will not have the grunt to turn the tyres you need to get the clearance back with the bigger diff heads . Ran 31's on my zuk axles for over 5 years with lockers and had no worries , until I tryied to pull someone out backwards and spat out a front cv . I knew better and paid the price . You would need 33's atleast to get the same clearance with toy diffs .I have 32x9.5 simex on 6 inch rims so they are tall .
Engine change planned , well then swap them out but pick your engines . The cheap option is not always the best option .
the lux diffs are not lined up for the zuk t/case , better bet is prado diffs , diff heads are offset the good ones are rear disc and already for coils , just have to be lucky and find them at the right price .
Other diffs I would look at are rangie diffs , lighter than toyota's and wider and a standard zuk engine will never break them , disc and coils allround . Draw back is crap ratio's .
All depends on what you want to do and do you want to do it to a 413 . If you are only planning to change the diffs etc , get a vitara and change the diffs . They are 1.6 , have powersteering . Much more room for bigger engines down the track to match the diffs and the rear is matched to the toyota , ie centered diff .
Oh and definatly coil it while you do it , very . My diff install was a little harder than most as I have a nissan gearbox , front output is on the left hand side . So i cut the diff in half and moved the head over . Also the front diff head will want to hit the front of the chassis thus limiting up travel compared to the 413 diff that fits insid ethe rail and making a spring purch for leaves will be hard ( not impossible thou ) , all the more reason for coils .
Chris
Well will chime in with my thoughts .
Yep have toyota hi lux , mid 80's , diffs in my 413 . Some pic's in my album about the build , very back yard and no cert
.
"Good idea , Bad idea " . All depends on what you are doing ? Standard engine , nope don't do it . You will not have the grunt to turn the tyres you need to get the clearance back with the bigger diff heads . Ran 31's on my zuk axles for over 5 years with lockers and had no worries , until I tryied to pull someone out backwards and spat out a front cv . I knew better and paid the price . You would need 33's atleast to get the same clearance with toy diffs .I have 32x9.5 simex on 6 inch rims so they are tall .
Engine change planned , well then swap them out but pick your engines . The cheap option is not always the best option .
the lux diffs are not lined up for the zuk t/case , better bet is prado diffs , diff heads are offset the good ones are rear disc and already for coils
, just have to be lucky and find them at the right price .
Other diffs I would look at are rangie diffs , lighter than toyota's and wider and a standard zuk engine will never break them , disc and coils allround . Draw back is crap ratio's .
All depends on what you want to do and do you want to do it to a 413 . If you are only planning to change the diffs etc , get a vitara and change the diffs . They are 1.6 , have powersteering . Much more room for bigger engines down the track to match the diffs and the rear is matched to the toyota , ie centered diff .
Oh and definatly coil it while you do it , very
. My diff install was a little harder than most as I have a nissan gearbox , front output is on the left hand side . So i cut the diff in half and moved the head over . Also the front diff head will want to hit the front of the chassis thus limiting up travel compared to the 413 diff that fits insid ethe rail and making a spring purch for leaves will be hard ( not impossible thou ) , all the more reason for coils .
Chris