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ok spent today cleaning under my new 413(grotty job) and the springs
are flat as, if not bending the other way......
is there anyone out there who has put springs from another vehical in to
replace them or any sugestions would be appreciated

Ryan wrote:ok spent today cleaning under my new 413(grotty job) and the springs
are flat as, if not bending the other way......
is there anyone out there who has put springs from another vehical in to
replace them or any sugestions would be appreciated

I replaced mine with a complete set of Tough dog with nolathane bushes, greasable shankles and the biggest shocks that I could fit cosy in excess of 2500 but the best money I ever spent on my 413, It did take about 12 months before the springs settled in and evertything started working well

Ryan wrote:ok spent today cleaning under my new 413(grotty job) and the springs
are flat as, if not bending the other way......
is there anyone out there who has put springs from another vehical in to
replace them or any sugestions would be appreciated

You could always pull them out and beat them back up

that may be what ill do cause $2500 is way beyond my budget.....

Ryan wrote:that may be what ill do cause $2500 is way beyond my budget.....

I tried 2 sets of Springs from Archers but didnt have a good run with them couldnt get them to last longer than 12 months before flattening , could well ne my driving style tho as other Zuk drivers seem to go okay, I also had more luck with beating up the original Zuks spring than others apart from my Tough dogs which 3 years later are still going well

Beat them back into shape using a good hammer around 4lb on a hunk of railway iron is what I first did. Getting aftermarket spring retensioned dosnt seem to last long

I think the Maxitrac ones (50mm lifted) are around $450 a set of 4, and long travel shocks are about the same again (roughly, from memory...)

Steve

cheers steve.....

Dr_PC wrote:Beat them back into shape using a good hammer around 4lb on a hunk of railway iron is what I first did. Getting aftermarket spring retensioned dosnt seem to last long

Yes I have read that somewhere.
You need to take the leaves apart and trace around them with a piece of chalk on the garage floor so you can see how much you are reshaping them and to get both sides the same.
Sounds like a noisy job though, hope the neighbours like you

i think the thing to do would be to put them in the press at th engineers next to my work..... nice and quiet and no need to work up a sweat either....

Ryan wrote:i think the thing to do would be to put them in the press at th engineers next to my work..... nice and quiet and no need to work up a sweat either....

My mate did that with some cruiser springs at southwards a few years ago

must of done the trick coz he never mentioned any problems with them

well the engineers arent keen on useing the press to rebend the springs and im not keen on the hammer idea... i priced retentioning and thats about the same price as maxitracs, but was talking to a mate today and he says new springs are to rigid and take ages to come right because of the weight of the zuk puts bugger all presure on them???....
any other ideas (other than coil overs)

Ryan wrote:any other ideas (other than coil overs)

A good set of second hand ones would be the way to go then.

ill do that right now cloggy..... duh the one thing i didnt think off haha

Ryan wrote:ill do that right now cloggy..... duh the one thing i didnt think off haha

for the minute take jamies shackles off his hands. And fit 30" muddies. you will find that these will scrape every where but it will be ok untill you get some money for lift springs. Jamie bought lift spring off trademe for very reasonable $$$

im gona borrow his shackles dude, already sorted,got new 30x9.5s with it and no it wont scrape when ive finished cutting my little freind.......

Ryan wrote:im gona borrow his shackles dude, already sorted,got new 30x9.5s with it and no it wont scrape when ive finished cutting my little freind.......

No the shackles will scrape on everything....llthats why jamie got lift springs so that the shackles were up out of the way

otherwise keep an eye out on repco for maxitrak...
they had springs (roughly 2" lift) for $75 each or something a while back... or if you happen to know anyone that works there may be able to hook you up at decent trade price...

icekayak wrote:otherwise keep an eye out on repco for maxitrak...
they had springs (roughly 2" lift) for $75 each or something a while back... or if you happen to know anyone that works there may be able to hook you up at decent trade price...

if that is the case i have a repco cash card ryan if you need it for that purpose.....save u a bit of moolah

mroffroader wrote:

icekayak wrote:otherwise keep an eye out on repco for maxitrak...
they had springs (roughly 2" lift) for $75 each or something a while back... or if you happen to know anyone that works there may be able to hook you up at decent trade price...

if that is the case i have a repco cash card ryan if you need it for that purpose.....save u a bit of moolah

i have the dollars mr0 but have been warned of new springs by a couple off people now saying they could be to rigid??

Ryan wrote:

mroffroader wrote:

icekayak wrote:otherwise keep an eye out on repco for maxitrak...
they had springs (roughly 2" lift) for $75 each or something a while back... or if you happen to know anyone that works there may be able to hook you up at decent trade price...

if that is the case i have a repco cash card ryan if you need it for that purpose.....save u a bit of moolah

i have the dollars mr0

so you'd rather spend it than get some money back??? sounds silly?

what are u on mr0????
i dont think u understand?? i have the cash and access to a repco card
i jst dont wana waste my cash on springs that are gona make my zuk a
lifted brick on wheels!!!

yeh unfortunately there isn't too many other options other than new springs if you wanna lift it... seems to depend on who you ask and what you end up gettin on how it handles...

shackles can make it wander over the road, and decrease the approach angle... have heard BAD things about gettin them reset and they just sag soon after... so unless you can find some 2nd hand lifted ones

Just drive it hard and put a bit of extra weight in it and they should soften up soonish (well that's what i'm planning on doing)... I've gone with maxitrak springs, toughdog bushes, and planning on getting shocks once i've measured it all up...

Oh and a cash card doesn't save that much off the springs need a decent trade account/know someone/decent special and you can get them heaps cheaper.. (their normally about $115 from memory)

thanks icekayak you understand what im on about ....... i can get trade discount from work so i think thats what i may have to do.......

yeh have been in your position a few months ago... and it seemed like the best compromise for me between price and lift etc...
unfortunately my truck has been put on hold for a while with uni and that

front springs are fitted but its still on blocks so can't tell you how much it has been lifted or what their like... but planning a decent virtual lift and have got 31's to put on it, but hoping to go upto like a 32x9.5 simex or something (which actually measure 33)... will have to move the front diff forward a touch and knock the firewall back a little

In the US they have been putting the rears in the front and Toyota Hilux front's on the back. Havent seen anyone here or in aussie saying they have this setup but it is another option.

As far as extra weight goes you can load your zuk up with water (saves lifting just fill several chilly bin's in place) to speed the process but they will still take a little bit to free up. or you can as someone I know did unpack the new springs and minus 3 leaves for 3 weeks then when they started getting flat add the rest back. Have no idea how long those springs will last...

I used to run lift shackels but i found they got hung up on things sometimes and it was a little worse to drive on the road but they are a good start while looking for lift spring and you can easily take them out.
Then i found a set of 2 inch lift springs on trademe for $300 they made my zuk heaps better off and on road ,but i found they were a little stiff so i took a leaf out and they are ok now, and like the others say i have been told re-tensioned springs sag after a while so they may not be the best solution.
Hope this helps

Reset springs sag after a while and they can only be reset about 3 times before they become useless aparently (sag really quick)

Reset springs are usualy not as stiff as new and flex better but you get what you pay for.

Oh for that lotto win.....

how about a body lift 1 to 2"
a few in nelson are running 31" with just a body lift

posted this on the other thread but anyway... ST90 van springs bolt in the back, about 2" lift and usually brioken in by the time you get them. Extra leaf but you can chuck the overload (I haven't as it totally stops rubbing). Can also canabalise these for extra (stronger) leaves for the front.